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Old 11-19-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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They can't because it proves Evolution (Macro Evolution) is impossible, and they can't admit it.
Please define Macro evolution for us. It's clear that you don't know what it means, and I would bet that you won't admit it.

Hint:

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Old 11-19-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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They can't because it proves Evolution (Macro Evolution) is impossible, and they can't admit it. Their only science is micro evolution which is within the Biblical boundaries of Kinds that can reproduce among themselves. Nothing has ever crossed that line except in the minds of those who believe in Evolution.
Yea, I know. But some will just post a chart showing 3.8 billion years = macroevolution as if that proves anything
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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Yea, I know. But some will just post a chart showing 3.8 billion years = macroevolution as if that proves anything
And some will just sit behind a screen and be intellectually lazy and just toss out ignorant statements, trying to pass them off as fact.

Sure as if that proves anything.

Did you miss the word Hint:? I gave him a hint in order for him to realize how misinformed he is. If he is interested in learning how misinformed he is then he can look up the hint all on his own big grown up self. We are not in grade school.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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And some will just sit behind a screen and be intellectually lazy and just toss out ignorant statements, trying to pass them off as fact.

Sure as if that proves anything.

Did you miss the word Hint:? I gave him a hint in order for him to realize how misinformed he is. If he is interested in learning how misinformed he is then he can look up the hint all on his own big grown up self. We are not in grade school.
I'm against being intellectually lazy and against tossing out ignorant statements trying to pass them off as fact. I wish you were the same as me.

The real problem is that people are too lazy. They take the word of scientists by faith that what they say about evolution is fact. If they weren't so lazy they would eschew evolution, they would see the marvelous complexity of DNA and would be forced to say "An Intelligent Designer did this!"
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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I'm against being intellectually lazy and against tossing out ignorant statements trying to pass them off as fact.
Now you are the King of Denial.

You have proven to be the most intellectually lazy person on this thread as well as the Master of tossing out ignorant misinformed statements. The evidence does not lie.
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The real problem is that people are too lazy. They take the word of scientists by faith that what they say about evolution is fact. If they weren't so lazy they would eschew evolution, they would see the marvelous complexity of DNA and would be forced to say "An Intelligent Designer did this!"
No one just takes the word of scientists especially those who are educated in science. We understand science vs. just taking the word. Evidence does not lie.

People like you are intellectually lazy...you just take the word of creationists as faith. That's about as intellectually lazy as it gets.
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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If they weren't so lazy they would eschew evolution, they would see the marvelous complexity of DNA and would be forced to say "An Intelligent Designer did this!"
I'm almost on the floor laughing.

Yeah, looking at something complex and saying "God did it" takes so much more intellectual effort than figuring out how it actually works.
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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I'm against being intellectually lazy and against tossing out ignorant statements trying to pass them off as fact. I wish you were the same as me.

The real problem is that people are too lazy. They take the word of scientists by faith that what they say about evolution is fact. If they weren't so lazy they would eschew evolution, they would see the marvelous complexity of DNA and would be forced to say "An Intelligent Designer did this!"
Right now the EVIDENCE is for evolution. If you wish to "prove" God "walked" in a garden, that Adam and Eve were visited by a "talking" snake, and that the Garden was "shut up" with an angel guarding the entrance--then produce evidence for God walking as other than Jesus Christ (who was born and developed the way all humans do), show us the skeletal remains of a snake with a larynx, and gives us the geographic location of where the Garden is located and protected by a sword wielding cherubim. Or are THOSE descriptions meant only figuratively? If not, why hasn't the "Garden" been located?

Until then EVIDENCE points toward evolution as the means God used to populate the earth with everything.

The snake idea is interesting in that in Hebrew the word comes from a root meaning “to practice divination.” As a noun this root is translated “enchantment” and in its verb form, “enchanter.” Only a fool doesn't see the spiritual meaning of using a snake rather than a "roaring" lion to confront the pair of Edenites.

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"No one, I think, can doubt that the statement that God walked in the afternoon in paradise, and that Adam lay hid under a tree is related figuratively in Scripture, that some mystical meaning may be indicated by it."
Origen of Alexandria 185-254 CE (De Prinicipiis, 4.1.16).

You should listen to Origen. He was probably the first Universalist.

Instead you've jumped into a religious coffin and are busy driving nails into the lid from the inside out.


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Old 11-19-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Lest we forget: he believes a man lived for three (3) days inside a giant fish.
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Just extend your question to ask who could believe we would be required to believe things which are patently absurd and so detached from the reality we experience and know about just to prove our belief in God? What kind of a God would require that????
Yo, Eusebius! What could be more intellectually lazy than accepting patently absurd explanations as a sign of faith in God???
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I'm against being intellectually lazy and against tossing out ignorant statements trying to pass them off as fact. I wish you were the same as me.
The real problem is that people are too lazy. They take the word of scientists by faith that what they say about evolution is fact. If they weren't so lazy they would eschew evolution, they would see the marvelous complexity of DNA and would be forced to say "An Intelligent Designer did this!"
Many who accept evolution say exactly that, Eusebius! Evolution theory says NOTHING about whether or not there is an Intelligent Designer. That is YOUR straw man. It simply describes HOW the design has been implemented. I really would like to know what kind of God you think would require us to believe absurdities as a sign of our belief in Him???? Why would He do such a thing???
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Old 11-19-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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Please define Macro evolution for us. It's clear that you don't know what it means, and I would bet that you won't admit it.

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Macro evolution is simply a change from one existing "kind" (A Kind is capable of self reproduction and at its limit becomes sterile). Evolution, as in Darwin's theory and it's modern counterparts, require a change from one Kind to another and the ability to reproduce the change. In other words a Wolf becoming a terrier is Micro evolution or changes within a Kind. Macro Evolution would be a fish becoming a mammal and the length of time is immaterial.

ALL DNA experiments show only Micro evolution can or has occurred.

Bet you cannot provide one testable, verifiable change beyond a Kind, as every tests while showing some improvement in one area, actually also shows an overall deterioration in the totality of the biological entity.

Please provide such a test not speculation based on a few fossils and requiring a few million years.
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