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Old 11-17-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I've seen what Religion can do to people. In some cases, it saved them from immanent doom. Whether it was drugs abuse, dangerous lifestyle, broken life's, broken relationships, broken homes or just NOT having A life purpose. In these cases, they are better off than before their "enlightenment." In this sense, the Church has served its greater purpose and saved a lost soul from perhaps a tragic end. It gave them a purpose to live and an "explanation" for the trials and calamities of life....the fallen state of man.

However, for those who stay involved in an organized Church or Theocracy system, ultimately are given into a Dark Mind Control system and unwittingly give up their Personal Identity of who they are and what values they ultimately have. I've witnessed this personally and seen followers led to the point of suicide (some were successful) abandoned by empty promises and a lost hope in a coming Messiah.

TAKE HEED of where you let your Mind go...!

Religious Zealots and "Transpersonal Identity Disorder!"

Transpesonal Id is a Cognitive dissonance defense mechanism borne by people who have no personal identity, individual persona or self image. They are lost in a Ecclesiastical story that hinges on a Magical escape from the Reality of this world. They see themselves like characters caught in a science-fiction fable...Only their role is "an agent" for the kingdom (whether it be for Christ, Muhammad or a Future Savior).
Driven by the certainty that they are privy to sacred truths and are therefore morally obligated to do everything in their power -- no matter how many people may suffer -- to act upon these truths ... a tendency to dehumanize and even demonize those who oppose them.
QUOTE: "Although this disorder can be called “religious fanaticism,” those afflicted need not appear wild-eyed or deranged; quite the contrary, they can present themselves as thoughtful and responsible people inspired by the loftiest of ideals. Nevertheless, their absolute confidence in themselves and their cause, their willingness to create massive destruction for a supposed higher good, and their dehumanization of their opponents, all indicate the imbalance of a personality disorder."

The dynamics that underlie religious fanaticism have been recognized by many psychological thinkers. For example, C. G. Jung (1966) wrote of “positive inflation,” Alice Miller (1981) described grandiosity used as a defense against depression, Gary Rosenthal (1987) utilized the phrase “inflated by the spirit,” and Greg Bogart (1995) warned against “the shadow of vocation.” More recently Robert Jay Lifton (2000) has described this type of personality structure in his concept of “functional megalomania” that fuels what he calls “the new global terrorism.”
THIS PHENOMENA is not exclusive to any one Religion but are a common characteristic to the Big 3 (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).
Ask yourself: "Is My Belief system based on facts that I CAN PROVE (because that's all that matters) or am i Just being Socialized by a Group who ultimately want to control my Mind?"
IF you look closely within your Church you will find Narcissistic Controllers who Lead a group of sheep. And how do they do it? ANSWER: By waiving a Black Book at you and proclaiming "...YOU have been "chosen" and your Identity and life are in this book." (don't you feel special now?)
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A Look at Transpersonal Identity Disorder by. John Firman and Ann Gila.











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Old 11-17-2015, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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I think fear, desperation, easy to be brainwashed, gullibility, indoctrination, hatred, low IQ, damaged soul/mind and/or mental illness are the main contributors to it.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:49 PM
 
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Paranoid schizophrenia.

Let me clarify something. We assume hormones "cause" emotions. But actually, I have a theory they only act in response to pre-existing feelings. That is, you feel happy, and it floods the brain with serotonin. The person can actually get into a cycle, where they produce an imbalance in their brain through odd thinking patterns.
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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When it come to a false Christianity by gnosis spirits who will corrupt people to think that this is God and will give a high knowledge than the most gifted Christians of Jesus Christ , as the passions of devotion to gnosis spirit can corrupt inexperienced people who have never been a Christian
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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No hope. They have no hope. Of course fools will think its religious and the mentals will join in or join up. But its no hope in the end.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I think fear, desperation, easy to be brainwashed, gullibility, indoctrination, hatred, low IQ, damaged soul/mind and/or mental illness are the main contributors to it.
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No hope. They have no hope. Of course fools will think its religious and the mentals will join in or join up. But its no hope in the end.
To these I can only add a lack of education.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Driven by the certainty that they are privy to sacred truths and are therefore morally obligated to do everything in their power -- no matter how many people may suffer -- to act upon these truths ... a tendency to dehumanize and even demonize those who oppose them.

I can confirm having been raised in a mind control group myself. That is what they do, divide people right down the middle as "us" and "them", "righteous/wicked". The whole point is to destroy the individual and replace it with a new cult persona. The person will put the group above everything else, even their lives or that of their children .The person can return to their pre cult self if they leave. 2nd generation cult members have a harder time because we have no pre cult self. Especially since the primary goal of the parent is to inculcate (literal translation means trample) the views of the group into the child from birth on. I remember after I left trying to build a personality out of traits I liked from other people. They did convince me they were right, they just never convinced me I was one of them. I don't do elitist very well.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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I've seen what Religion can do to people. In some cases, it saved them from immanent doom. Whether it was drugs abuse, dangerous lifestyle, broken life's, broken relationships, broken homes or just NOT having A life purpose. In these cases, they are better off than before their "enlightenment." In this sense, the Church has served its greater purpose and saved a lost soul from perhaps a tragic end. It gave them a purpose to live and an "explanation" for the trials and calamities of life....the fallen state of man.

However, for those who stay involved in an organized Church or Theocracy system, ultimately are given into a Dark Mind Control system and unwittingly give up their Personal Identity of who they are and what values they ultimately have. I've witnessed this personally and seen followers led to the point of suicide (some were successful) abandoned by empty promises and a lost hope in a coming Messiah.

TAKE HEED of where you let your Mind go...!

Religious Zealots and "Transpersonal Identity Disorder!"

Transpesonal Id is a Cognitive dissonance defense mechanism borne by people who have no personal identity, individual persona or self image. They are lost in a Ecclesiastical story that hinges on a Magical escape from the Reality of this world. They see themselves like characters caught in a science-fiction fable...Only their role is "an agent" for the kingdom (whether it be for Christ, Muhammad or a Future Savior).
Driven by the certainty that they are privy to sacred truths and are therefore morally obligated to do everything in their power -- no matter how many people may suffer -- to act upon these truths ... a tendency to dehumanize and even demonize those who oppose them.
QUOTE: "Although this disorder can be called “religious fanaticism,” those afflicted need not appear wild-eyed or deranged; quite the contrary, they can present themselves as thoughtful and responsible people inspired by the loftiest of ideals. Nevertheless, their absolute confidence in themselves and their cause, their willingness to create massive destruction for a supposed higher good, and their dehumanization of their opponents, all indicate the imbalance of a personality disorder."

The dynamics that underlie religious fanaticism have been recognized by many psychological thinkers. For example, C. G. Jung (1966) wrote of “positive inflation,” Alice Miller (1981) described grandiosity used as a defense against depression, Gary Rosenthal (1987) utilized the phrase “inflated by the spirit,” and Greg Bogart (1995) warned against “the shadow of vocation.” More recently Robert Jay Lifton (2000) has described this type of personality structure in his concept of “functional megalomania” that fuels what he calls “the new global terrorism.”
THIS PHENOMENA is not exclusive to any one Religion but are a common characteristic to the Big 3 (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam).
Ask yourself: "Is My Belief system based on facts that I CAN PROVE (because that's all that matters) or am i Just being Socialized by a Group who ultimately want to control my Mind?"
IF you look closely within your Church you will find Narcissistic Controllers who Lead a group of sheep. And how do they do it? ANSWER: By waiving a Black Book at you and proclaiming "...YOU have been "chosen" and your Identity and life are in this book." (don't you feel special now?)
LINK

A Look at Transpersonal Identity Disorder by. John Firman and Ann Gila.











.
Should it surprise us that secular science today thinks it's normal for a man to believe he's a woman and that Christians are now suffering from a "disorder"? It doesn't surprise me.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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What leads some to religious fanaticism?

Stuff like this:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/41878362-post26.html

This:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/41881029-post51.html

And this:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/41940571-post19.html
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Fundamentalist Ideologue Extremists of every faith have the same qualities.

  • They do not respect women.
  • They want to bring about the end of the world.
  • They are angry, and feel marginalized by others.
  • Some of them act on their anger, and some are content to whine about non-existent harm they seek, and hope for.
  • They do not respect women.
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