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I enjoy posting here. Unfortunately, though, some people do seem to enjoy just poking others in the eye. Daily, we see posts attacking religion. That's unfortunate that some people must be so unhappy in life to do that sort of stuff.
Exactly. You enjoy posting here.............. even though you get a LOT of flack.
I can't understand why someone would spend ANY time on a site they don't like.
Having everyone agree with you is boring. I don't like the idea of people (any people) killing others over belief, but I like the idea of people being able to debate religion.
You come on here and constantly make outrageous assertions, like that everyone on planet earth deserves to be killed, except for those who convert to your version of Christianity. And then you wonder why people attack your views.
He told you? Personally? Imagine that. I know what I know of God from intuition and my own logic, but here Freak80 has a direct line.
It makes as much sense as Vizio's claims about what God said, and your claims about what you intuit God thinks.
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
I don't attack "religion". I don't see many around here who do.
What I find most egregious is how fundamentalists accuse worship leaders like me of attacking religion. It seems that anything that isn't their religion isn't religion to them. There is simply no excuse for expecting that kind of self-ratifying nonsense to hold water with anyone.
Intuition of what God thinks is basically all we can do. Most of us have a shaky grasp, mainly "this feels right/wrong/really wrong."
It feels right for religions to work together, it feels wrong to have struggle for supremacy. I don't want Muslims taking over countries, I want them able to live peacefully within countries. Pretty sure this is doable, too, if not for radical extremists. I will say the same of Christian extremists too (fundies are very scary). This world is plenty scary, I heard today of two extremist types that had nothing to do with religion. Disgruntled customers pulling guns cuz some1 forgot their burger.
I can see a world where there are temples all about, and people are cool with each other (regardless of my personal beefs with stuff, that's what I want). That's the feeling I get of a future that could happen. Or things could get scarier and scarier between religions. I guess if you're cool with that, whatever, but I'm thinking that's counter-purposes.
I don't care what Freak80 said. I'm not his lackey. I can don't only think differently from other people supposedly a part of my religion, but I can change my mind. Because I am first a human, then whatever religion, not the other way around.
Humans can get moral intuition (the feeling of rightness/wrong). That's fine, and I respect that from you, him, whoever. But Freak80 said what God told him. From my experience, the people talking to God are typically under a delusion (or dismissed as such). Not to say this is always so, but it is alot less valid than "I know this much is true."
What I find most egregious is how fundamentalists accuse worship leaders like me of attacking religion.
You know how it goes. All too often, if you're not butt-kissing religion and treating it with top-notch respect no matter what you REALLY think about it, then you're essentially "attacking" religion. After all, religion itself is a very binary belief system. It's all or nothing. Black and white. The more "fundamental" the religion, the more rigid the boundary between black and white, good and evil. If you're not for us, you're against us.
Therefore, again, all too often, this kind of religious indoctrination can program a person's mind to approach ALL issues with only a binary view of the world. This causes them to lose the nuance, the details, the small and sometimes imperceptible differences within an issue. Everything is instead categorized as "for me" and "against me." There's no in between. No gray area. No neutrality.
Fundamentalism rewires the mind to think in binary terms ... which is why nearly any criticism of religion is an "attack" on religion because there is no gray area in between. A mere "criticism" would be a middle ground position -- it's not an outright attack yet it's also not blind acceptance. But to them, there is no middle ground. Thus, if they're not complimenting religion, they're attacking it.
And so you hear these whiners bloviating every other day about these strange "attacks" on religion that just don't exist. It's like good ol' Don Quixote tilting windmills. Some GOP moron actually equated Obama's mandate for religious employers to offer contraception on their insurance plans to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Can you believe that crap? This guy claimed that this was the third great attack on our nation, this non-existent "war on Christianity."
So sick of hearing it.
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