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Old 06-04-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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This is basically why people can tell people about God over and over but cannot convince them. This is also why atheists can't teach theists anything either.
  • Mismatching for difference. You have a set belief. Any new information gets thrown out. In addition, anything that sounds like something you have heard already gets discarded.
  • Options as alternative ways to do something. As in, there is a right way to do something. You want to look for a better way. This might be good in many cases, because the right way is not always the best way. But it can also lead to reinventing the wheel.
  • Discounting small steps. This is why diets fail too. People pick and choose what they follow, and discount stuff that seems too simple.
  • Strong-willed. Basically, nobody can tell you you're wrong so when new information comes along, you ignore it.

Hundreds of Proofs of God’s Existence

These are called mental filters. I could have hundreds of proofs (or disproofs, depending on how you see that article) of God, and someone wouldn't read it. Actually, bizarrely, in many cases they wouldn't SEE it. Their brain would just ignore it and pass on by. For instance, you ignored that link without reading, didn't you?

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Old 06-04-2016, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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http://www.neurosemantics.com/cognit...tions-2015-30/

This is basically why people can tell people about God over and over but cannot convince them. This is also why atheists can't teach theists anything either.
  • Mismatching for difference. You have a set belief. Any new information gets thrown out.
  • Options as alternative ways to do something. As in, there is a right way to do something. You want to look for a better way. This might be good in many cases, because the right way is not always the best way. But it can also lead to reinventing the wheel.
  • Discounting small steps. This is why diets fail too. People pick and choose what they follow, and discount stuff that seems too simple.
  • Strong-willed. Basically, nobody can tell you you're wrong so when new information comes along, you ignore it.

Hundreds of Proofs of God’s Existence

These are called mental filters. I could have a 100 proofs (or disproof) of God, and someone wouldn't read it. Actually, bizarrely, in many cases they wouldn't SEE it. Their brain would just ignore it and pass on by. For instance, you ignored that link without reading, didn't you?
People can ''tell'' us about God all they want -- it's a free country. Judging us because we don't follow a particular person's version of God, though, is obnoxious.

You could have a thousand ways to 'prove' the existence of a deity, or a million. It doesn't really matter. Most of us have already considered the major arguments and discarded most of them as implausible.
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Old 06-04-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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That's all fine and good. But I'm saying most people have filters that prevent them from appropriately deciding when proof is good enough. As observed in the Evidence, Please thread.
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Old 06-04-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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http://www.neurosemantics.com/cognit...tions-2015-30/

This is basically why people can tell people about God over and over but cannot convince them. This is also why atheists can't teach theists anything either.
  • Mismatching for difference. You have a set belief. Any new information gets thrown out. In addition, anything that sounds like something you have heard already gets discarded.
  • Options as alternative ways to do something. As in, there is a right way to do something. You want to look for a better way. This might be good in many cases, because the right way is not always the best way. But it can also lead to reinventing the wheel.
  • Discounting small steps. This is why diets fail too. People pick and choose what they follow, and discount stuff that seems too simple.
  • Strong-willed. Basically, nobody can tell you you're wrong so when new information comes along, you ignore it.

Hundreds of Proofs of God’s Existence

These are called mental filters. I could have hundreds of proofs (or disproofs, depending on how you see that article) of God, and someone wouldn't read it. Actually, bizarrely, in many cases they wouldn't SEE it. Their brain would just ignore it and pass on by. For instance, you ignored that link without reading, didn't you?

Thats what I call them. But I call it "Brain filters". We are a processor in a bigger processor. That simple.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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...[*]Strong-willed. Basically, nobody can tell you you're wrong so when new information comes along, you ignore it.[/list]
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It's not as much being strong-willed as it is having atychiphobia (seeing having been wrong as a personal failure, and hating personal failure either by ego or perfectionism-ideas).
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Old 06-04-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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http://www.neurosemantics.com/cognit...tions-2015-30/

This is basically why people can tell people about God over and over but cannot convince them. This is also why atheists can't teach theists anything either.
  • Mismatching for difference. You have a set belief. Any new information gets thrown out. In addition, anything that sounds like something you have heard already gets discarded.
  • Options as alternative ways to do something. As in, there is a right way to do something. You want to look for a better way. This might be good in many cases, because the right way is not always the best way. But it can also lead to reinventing the wheel.
  • Discounting small steps. This is why diets fail too. People pick and choose what they follow, and discount stuff that seems too simple.
  • Strong-willed. Basically, nobody can tell you you're wrong so when new information comes along, you ignore it.

Hundreds of Proofs of God’s Existence

These are called mental filters. I could have hundreds of proofs (or disproofs, depending on how you see that article) of God, and someone wouldn't read it. Actually, bizarrely, in many cases they wouldn't SEE it. Their brain would just ignore it and pass on by. For instance, you ignored that link without reading, didn't you?
I had a look and noted that the first dozen or so have been soundly debunked. I didn't bother about the rest.
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Old 06-04-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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It will be impossible to convince anointed in Christ believers that God is not real , as the living God lives on their spirit and is one with them ............. As these people would never forsake Jesus Christ
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Old 06-04-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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People can ''tell'' us about God all they want -- it's a free country. Judging us because we don't follow a particular person's version of God, though, is obnoxious.

You could have a thousand ways to 'prove' the existence of a deity, or a million. It doesn't really matter. Most of us have already considered the major arguments and discarded most of them as implausible.
See the below post. >>> I have seen many atheists jump thru hoops and tie themselves in knots in an effort to explain away real evidence.

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That's all fine and good. But I'm saying most people have filters that prevent them from appropriately deciding when proof is good enough. As observed in the Evidence, Please thread.
See above post. ^^^

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It will be impossible to convince anointed in Christ believers that God is not real , as the living God lives on their spirit and is one with them ............. As these people would never forsake Jesus Christ
This is so true. All the arguments in the World don't match up to the power of the Holy Spirit. I know God is real.
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Old 06-04-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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It will be impossible to convince anointed in Christ believers that God is not real , as the living God lives on their spirit and is one with them ............. As these people would never forsake Jesus Christ
Circular reasoning. I was a believer and now I'm not. Simple fact. But since I "forsook" Jesus I wasn't a believer, in your mind. Fortunately the only REAL truism is this: only a True Believer would believe such facile, self-ratifying nonsense.
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Old 06-04-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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This doesn't fall under cognitive filter but cognitive somethingorother. I was on the Reddit message board and they were discussing someone's mom's failure to understand how the scripture in Isiah about the circle of the earth and how that showed the writer didn't understand the shape of the earth. He was getting kind of frustrated because he kept saying sphere not circle and she kept saying it was a circle. I was trying to follow what he was saying and I was just as lost as to what his point was as his mom was. I was wanting to see what they were saying and I could not. Someone mentioned the moon looking like a circle from the earth and it finally clicked. Oh, it's saying the earth is round like a plate not round like a ball.

Here's what I think happened. That scripture was presented to me as a child as proof positive that the bible had advanced scientific knowledge not available at the time. In the early 70s they already knew the earth was a sphere so when I would read circle in that scripture my mind would see the earth as a 3d ball. Every time those guys said circle my mind automatically switched it to match what we know about the earth. Sphere actually seemed weird and out of place.

It's pretty clever of them to take a scripture that could be used to disprove the bible and specifically put mental blocks around it so when a person encounters the correct argument they cannot see it. Even trying to argue it would probably result in the image of circle being the correct image being even further ingrained.

Is that what you meant?
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