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Old 03-10-2016, 07:26 AM
 
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Yea, I have to agree, this agape love that Mystic speaks of is something that only God has attained and holds as He is immutable. Humans are emotional creatures who have on and off feelings for others from day-to-day even the ones closest to them. Yea, you have to know the God whose son is Jesus Christ who died on the cross for our sins then resurrected 3 days later to be with His Father.
That is correct, perry!
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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And how do you know they did not have any choice in the matter? We don't feel the need to dwell on such details when we don't have the facts.
Do you believe they would voluntarily have sex in public? There is a problem when you do not dwell on those pesky details. Those women were either willing participants, or not about public sexual activity with men. These women were David's wives, yes?

Thinking about what you read is never overrated.
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Do you believe they would voluntarily have sex in public? There is a problem when you do not dwell on those pesky details. Those women were either willing participants, or not about public sexual activity with men. These women were David's wives, yes?

Thinking about what you read is never overrated.
I thought they did it in a tent on a roof top.
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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I thought they did it in a tent on a roof top.
A tent is no public. Were they having sex voluntarily? What would their punishment be for having sex with a man other than their husband?

It? ahahahahahaha Let us call it what it, is. Sexual intercourse.
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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A tent is no public. Were they having sex voluntarily? What would their punishment be for having sex with a man other than their husband?

It? ahahahahahaha Let us call it what it, is. Sexual intercourse.
Did God condone it? Did not the perp pay for it later?
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Did God condone it? Did not the perp pay for it later?
God used women to punish David. Why not punish David? David should have been the one having public sex with men.

Women, having sex in public were volunteers? What was their punishment? Either they were consenting, or not. That is the point. Jeff seems to think this is a pesky detail. I disagree.


Punishing women is a male sexual fantasy in the Bible. Women must be degraded in public. This tale is all male sexual fantasy.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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God used women to punish David. Why not punish David? David should have been the one having public sex with men.

Women, having sex in public were volunteers? What was their punishment? Either they were consenting, or not. That is the point. Jeff seems to think this is a pesky detail. I disagree.


Punishing women is a male sexual fantasy in the Bible. Women must be degraded in public. This tale is all male sexual fantasy.
No He didn't. He removed His hedge of protection and warned David of things to come. HUGE HUGE difference. God did not force Absalom to rebell against his father and disgrace him.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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Do you believe they would voluntarily have sex in public? There is a problem when you do not dwell on those pesky details. Those women were either willing participants, or not about public sexual activity with men. These women were David's wives, yes?

Thinking about what you read is never overrated.

Just an honest question: during that period of time would they not have been stoned to death for adultry after the sex act? I am guessing that adultry must of meant the same thing back then that is does now so if the women were willing they would have not only been willing to be publically shamed by having sex in public but also willing to risk being stoned to death for doing so.
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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The god of the bible is one immoral dude. Anyone who believes or teaches the unmoral utterances of this animal, because that is all that god is, has the moral turpitude of Catholic bishops who hide pedophilia priests.

Over the top commentary?

Nope, not at all. We all know the story of Lot's daughters, which is bad enough.

In 2 Samuel 12:11-12 that horrible entity threatens husbands with taking their wives, and giving them to other males to RAPE IN FULL PUBLIC VIEW.

What kind of animal does this? What kind of twisted logic must anyone go to support this? How COULD you, whether your are a parent or a church leader. The most disgusting violence against an innocent women? How can you think in any way shape or form that this is moral, right, or justified?

11.So says the Lord: "Behold I will raise up against you evil out of your own house, and I will take your wives before your eyes and I will give them to your friend, and he will lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.

12.For you have acted in secrecy, but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun."


He was talking to David...Not in general...
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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He was talking to David...Not in general...
Why would that matter?
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