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Old 03-21-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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who cares?
Certainly not your god.
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Planet earth is for God to pick those who are willing to be His sheep.
Wrong! Planet Earth is not for anyone specific...it's just one of 100 Billion planets in the Milky Way.
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If you don't want to be one, so be it. No one cares in the end.
Such a dark demented mind you are displaying here...is this what your religion teaches you?

It's clear that this fictional god will not be picking you.
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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Heaven will consist of only people who truly love God and have been born again. Simply inconceivable that people would want to do bad things there.
Really? Plenty of folks who "love God" and are "born again" are scumbags in the here and now. Why should that change after death?

I don't want to spend eternity with willfully ignorant people, many of whom have authoritarian personalities.
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Heaven will consist of only people who truly love God and have been born again.
Fundamentalists: The people who think they and they alone will be in heaven.
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You don't understand logic?
Aaaaaaaahahahahaha!!! THAT coming from someone that believes in the existence of gods!

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If people (freewill) are given the choice of 0 and 1, some of them will choose 0 while others will choose 1.
So the question remains. In this heaven, will people have free-will or not.
If they will, what is going to stop them choosing 0 instead of1?
If they do not, but only do good things (as one would expect in 'heaven'), why couldn't Yahweh create that situation on Earth?
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Jesus and His boys and girls not withstanding thousands of witnesses ( screaming at agnostics from their graves) cut through the scepticism.. Jesus "brang it" and His tag team took notes. His empowered and inspired transcrptionists helped Jesus sell His best seller in history. The bible is pretty neat then eh? I like agnostics and atheists as they at least question, discuss and challenge the various mysteries and many rules of the road. Forget the dogmas, doctrines and religion they are close but no cigar as they lost too much in translation without Hebrew roots ,without the foundation of baptism via the apostles, got into la la land with many misdirections by philosophical ministers and priests to a point where human behavior and racialization has to be questioned and one great word sums up religion...........what? Study otherwise only listening will get you confused.

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Old 03-21-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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The bible is pretty neat then eh?
No it's one of the most barbaric, oppressive pieces of junk ever written by those many authors for people to read it and interpret it how they want.

It's what has kept humanity in the Dark Ages for Centuries.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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Aaaaaaaahahahahaha!!! THAT coming from someone that believes in the existence of gods!

So the question remains. In this heaven, will people have free-will or not.
If they will, what is going to stop them choosing 0 instead of1?
If they do not, but only do good things (as one would expect in 'heaven'), why couldn't Yahweh create that situation on Earth?

So you don't know God knows the future. Those who potentially choose 0 will be filtered out during the earthly period of time.

You don't have the capacity to understand time itself, do you.

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Old 03-21-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Heaven will consist of only people who truly love God and have been born again. Simply inconceivable that people would want to do bad things there.
Why do you have a collar around your neck in heaven?

Can you go anywhere and experience everything except coming back to earth for a xmas dinner with you loved ones?
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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Certainly not your god.Wrong! Planet Earth is not for anyone specific...it's just one of 100 Billion planets in the Milky Way.
Such a dark demented mind you are displaying here...is this what your religion teaches you?

It's clear that this fictional god will not be picking you.
That remains your own faith statement of your own religion, and without your own awareness (how stupid).
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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That remains your own faith statement of your own religion, and without your own awareness (how stupid).
Why the skepticism toward religion all of a sudden? I'm confused.
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