When one claims to follow a higher authority (America, church, abortion)
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How is it possible some claim to be following a deity or procalim they are a bible, or other religious book believer---
With all their talk about how lazy the poor are, and how they are leaches on the social dollar, regardless of the facts;
When they speak of people with other [not theirs] faith traditions should be gone, and we should kill their families and carpet bomb their homelands [A Muslim friend told me, “If they want to bomb my home town to kill my family, I think others in Sarasota FL might get mad.”];
When they condemn people crossing human defined boarders, demanding they be removed, and a wall built to keep them out;
When they claim women should have no control over their own bodies, and medical treatments, and should be placed in prison for life decisions they disagree with;
When encouraging violence against those who disagree with them is acceptable, and encouraging people to express that violence on others;
When they see the rich as people of value, while casting those struggling as lazy leaches living on the social dime;
When they see their point of view as the right point of view, and everyone else as having a wrong point of view;
When they misquote The Collective Narrative [Scripture] to make their point, while discounting what it truly says;
When they see people of color, or different ethnic groups, as a “voting block” and not people;
When they dance around answering questions, and truly give no real solutions, I wonder.
How is it possible some claim to be following a deity or procalim they are a bible, or other religious book believer---
With all their talk about how lazy the poor are, and how they are leaches on the social dollar, regardless of the facts;
When they speak of people with other [not theirs] faith traditions should be gone, and we should kill their families and carpet bomb their homelands [A Muslim friend told me, “If they want to bomb my home town to kill my family, I think others in Sarasota FL might get mad.”];
When they condemn people crossing human defined boarders, demanding they be removed, and a wall built to keep them out;
When they claim women should have no control over their own bodies, and medical treatments, and should be placed in prison for life decisions they disagree with;
When encouraging violence against those who disagree with them is acceptable, and encouraging people to express that violence on others;
When they see the rich as people of value, while casting those struggling as lazy leaches living on the social dime;
When they see their point of view as the right point of view, and everyone else as having a wrong point of view;
When they misquote The Collective Narrative [Scripture] to make their point, while discounting what it truly says;
When they see people of color, or different ethnic groups, as a “voting block” and not people;
When they dance around answering questions, and truly give no real solutions, I wonder.
AGAIN - I will agree with you - but AGAIN you are talking about the conservatives who CLAIM that they are "Christians" but they are NOT very Christ-like in their thoughts and actions.
AGAIN - I will agree with you - but AGAIN you are talking about the conservatives who CLAIM that they are "Christians" but they are NOT very Christ-like in their thoughts and actions.
How is it possible some claim to be following a deity or procalim they are a bible, or other religious book believer---
With all their talk about how lazy the poor are, and how they are leaches on the social dollar, regardless of the facts;
When they speak of people with other [not theirs] faith traditions should be gone, and we should kill their families and carpet bomb their homelands [A Muslim friend told me, “If they want to bomb my home town to kill my family, I think others in Sarasota FL might get mad.”];
When they condemn people crossing human defined boarders, demanding they be removed, and a wall built to keep them out;
When they claim women should have no control over their own bodies, and medical treatments, and should be placed in prison for life decisions they disagree with;
When encouraging violence against those who disagree with them is acceptable, and encouraging people to express that violence on others;
When they see the rich as people of value, while casting those struggling as lazy leaches living on the social dime;
When they see their point of view as the right point of view, and everyone else as having a wrong point of view;
When they misquote The Collective Narrative [Scripture] to make their point, while discounting what it truly says;
When they see people of color, or different ethnic groups, as a “voting block” and not people;
When they dance around answering questions, and truly give no real solutions, I wonder.
So you reduce being a Christian to agreeing with you politically? Believe it or not there are Christians among both major political parties. We may disagree on how to handle the problems of today and government's involvement in it, but please don't use that as a litmus test to determine one's religion.
So you reduce being a Christian to agreeing with you politically? Believe it or not there are Christians among both major political parties. We may disagree on how to handle the problems of today and government's involvement in it, but please don't use that as a litmus test to determine one's religion.
Just when I had visions of sugar plums dancing in my head and thinking that church in Texas might be kind of nice, WHAM, comprehension just runs out the door.
What is that first sentence to do with anything? I will ignore such dullness..
And where does the post say anything about a specific political party????
Those who smelt it, more than likely dealt it, huh?
The post deals expressly with ATTITUDES and ACTIONS, not ideologies or agendas...
Just as one uses women's health care as a litmus test to determine who is qualified to reign on SCOTUS? NEVER would that happen here in AMERICA, home of the free...or a litmus test to determine who would occupy any elected seat?????
Some people say the silliest things.
As long as the evangelical insists on using abortion and LGBTQ RIGHTS to determine religion or who is NOT a christian, how can they even consider playing litmus test card?
Many here have told me supporting abortion means I hate GOD and I CANNOT be a christian.
99% of the evangelicals say supporting LGBT RIGHTS is being in allegiance with satan and that Christ will strike me dead..
So take that litmus objection all the was to the eternal fires of torment and be happy burning with the 99% of evangelicals who judge me for and others not of your false god of torment and vengeance covenant because we acknowledge LOVE, MERCY and JUSTICE.
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Just when I had visions of sugar plums dancing in my head and thinking that church in Texas might be kind of nice, WHAM, comprehension just runs out the door.
What is that first sentence to do with anything? I will ignore such dullness..
And where does the post say anything about a specific political party????
Those who smelt it, more than likely dealt it, huh?
I'm sorry. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but you mentioned several issues that conservatives tend to disagree with liberals on. Typically, one's views on those issues tend to identify which party they belong to, as the solutions to the issue tend to be very political. I got the impression that if I disagreed with you on them, then you don't consider me to be a Christian, or that you consider my faith to be invalid.
Again....my apologies if you did not mean this to be a political discussion, I took your post to be of that nature.
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The post deals expressly with ATTITUDES and ACTIONS, not ideologies or agendas...
Just as one uses women's health care as a litmus test to determine who is qualified to reign on SCOTUS? NEVER would that happen here in AMERICA, home of the free...or a litmus test to determine who would occupy any elected seat?????
Some people say the silliest things.
As long as the evangelical insists on using abortion and LGBTQ RIGHTS to determine religion or who is NOT a christian, how can they even consider playing litmus test card?
Many here have told me supporting abortion means I hate GOD and I CANNOT be a christian.
I'm not sure that we really ought to be discussing abortion here, so I'll not respond here.
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99% of the evangelicals say supporting LGBT RIGHTS is being in allegiance with satan and that Christ will strike me dead..
So take that litmus objection all the was to the eternal fires of torment and be happy burning with the 99% of evangelicals who judge me for and others not of your false god of torment and vengeance covenant because we acknowledge LOVE, MERCY and JUSTICE.
One can be a Christian and be wrong about an issue.
How is it possible some claim to be following a deity or procalim they are a bible, or other religious book believer---
With all their talk about how lazy the poor are, and how they are leaches on the social dollar, regardless of the facts;
When they speak of people with other [not theirs] faith traditions should be gone, and we should kill their families and carpet bomb their homelands [A Muslim friend told me, “If they want to bomb my home town to kill my family, I think others in Sarasota FL might get mad.”];
When they condemn people crossing human defined boarders, demanding they be removed, and a wall built to keep them out;
When they claim women should have no control over their own bodies, and medical treatments, and should be placed in prison for life decisions they disagree with;
When encouraging violence against those who disagree with them is acceptable, and encouraging people to express that violence on others;
When they see the rich as people of value, while casting those struggling as lazy leaches living on the social dime;
When they see their point of view as the right point of view, and everyone else as having a wrong point of view;
When they misquote The Collective Narrative [Scripture] to make their point, while discounting what it truly says;
When they see people of color, or different ethnic groups, as a “voting block” and not people;
When they dance around answering questions, and truly give no real solutions, I wonder.
This reminds me of a TonyTonyTony thread, just without the scripture references.
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