Origin of life pushed back even earlier (Lord, principle, philosophy)
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I think where Christianity took a lethal wrong turn was marrying itself to the OT and trying to force-fit Jesus into the genocidal, psychotic Jehovah's son.
And then trying to spin-off that disastrous union with a mysterious Holy Ghost as a sort of not-gay triune of male godling-type figures.
Altogether way too weird for this simple fisherman to accept as true.
Amen, Trout! They tried to merge the ancient ignorance and barbaric superstitions about God in the OT with the revelations and demonstration of God's TRUE NATURE by Jesus completely missing the point and corrupting the Gospel egregiously.
Amen, Trout! They tried to merge the ancient ignorance and barbaric superstitions about God in the OT with the revelations and demonstration of God's TRUE NATURE by Jesus completely missing the point and corrupting the Gospel egregiously.
Jesus taught much of the same barbaric stuff that was in the OT.
Where do you think the fire and brimstone preachers get their material?
I never respond to post that long. If you want to break it down into smaller bits, I will be glad to respond. If you want to drop; it, that's fine too.
I apologize if I over estimated your attention span. However the entire post was "broken into smaller bits". And nothing in it is negated by attention span difficulties.
If you want to respond to it fine, if you want to dodge it, that's fine too.
I'll save you the trouble. We'll start with the Bible contradiction you asked for, I gave and you ignored...
1 John 4:8 - "God is love."
1 Corinthians 13:4 - "Love is not jealous."
Exodus 20:5 - "I, the Lord thy God, am a jealous God."
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If you know so much, why do you refuse to post the evidence that support even one thing the "TOE preaches. Lets start with an easy, one that even you will not answser: What determines if the offspring will have bone?
Just as soon as you answer the questions I gave you.
1. Explain the general idea of DNA genome mapping and how it is used to track the genotypic background of a modern species.
2. Explain three types of tRNA or DNA transcription errors in mitosis.
...and no.It isn't changing the subject. It is relevant to what we are discussing.
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The truth is I know more about scienced than you do.
Know about it?? You can't even frickin' spell it.
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
I now he answer to who determines if he offspring will have bones.
'What' not 'who'.
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Evidently you don't and that is genetics 101.
Make your mind up. Are we discussing what evolution has proven - in which case your question about bones is not the subject or are we talking about genetics - in which case you can answer these questions.
1. Explain the general idea of DNA genome mapping and how it is used to track the genotypic background of a modern species.
2. Explain three types of tRNA or DNA transcription errors in mitosis.
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If you can't answer that simple question, there is no need to continue discussing a subject for which you have no adequate background.
Until you answer that question, I will not respond to any of your post on this subject.
Yes...that's what fundies usually do when they get their balls caught in a vice. They run away....but the vice is still there. Jeff and Vizio do it all the time. You're clearly no better. But hey! No worries if you run. It just shows that you don't know what you claim to now.
You keep claiming people are liars for Darwin. That is accusing people you do not agree with as liars, especially evolutionary biologists.
Anyone who says evolution has been proven is a liar or ignorant. Has evolution ever been proven?
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I stand by my evaluation of you based on your numerous posts, if these posts do not reflect yourself that is your problem.
They do reflect myself and I stand by my evaluation of you based on your posts.
>>I never asked you to accept conventional biology, just to learn a few basics such as what a theory is and is not. As has been mentioned to you a theory is science is about as close to proof or the truth as science goes. Proof is for mathematics. <<
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. A theory is not science until it is classified as a law of science. I ask you a basic question about biology and to date you have not answered, so I will ask it again: What determines if the offspring will have bones?
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Disagreeing is not an insult, insulting is insulting. And as I said I will not get into a discussion on aspects of evolution with yourself.
Why not? Are you not confident you can show I m wrong?
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No my degree is not in biology by physical geography, I stated that my course and field work involved biology, I studied both geomorphology and biogeography and hence the other subjects rounded out my education. Until you have proof that evolutionary biologists and those who support them are liars I will not spend time looking for a plank in my eye. I do not call those 2ho believe the Hams, Hovids, Gishes or Morris of the world as liars even if I think their views are totally out to lunch.
Except for Hovin the others you mention are far more qualified in science than you are. You can't call Ham, Gish or Morris liars because you would have to show where they are wrong and you can't do that.
All 3 of those men not only reject evolution, they also refute it with accepted science. So I don't need a great science background to read and understand what they say.
I also ask you another question, you have not answered--are there any transitional fossils?
So before you run away and put me on ignore, I think the other evo fundies would like you to show that I am wrong. they certainly will not answer any of my questions, indicating they can't.
A theory is not science until it is classified as a law of science. I ask you a basic question about biology and to date you have not answered, so I will ask it again: What determines if the offspring will have bones?
I've already decided based on your previous posts that you really don't know a thing about science or how a theory relates to science.
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points
you don't know and you know that "he spoke it ..." is not an answer at all. You are gross if you are an theist and flat out should be shot if you are an uncover atheist.
translation for the non fundy
Omega doesn't know. and god would never ask us to follow blind faith. jesus was very clear about that.
omega means The bible was never intended to be a cook book, a gardening book, a 2004 chevy cavalier manual, or a science book.
harry potter and captain america do not answer the human question of "what am I" as completely as the bible. It has our good, bad, and ugly in most of us. We are capable of such goodness and great cruelty.
If we want to be 'less" human do all of the bible's good parts or all of the bible's bad parts. How we describe the bible is how we see the world. It is a great tool for that.
Get a good dictionary and look up "said."
Here is some more Scripture that might help you see HOW God did it: By the WORD of he Lord, the heavens were made, and by His breath of His mouth all their host(stars and planets)--Ps 33:6.
For He SPOKE and it was done. He commanded and it stood fast---Ps 33:9
that is it ... you do not know. You don't know how he did it because it doesn't say. The way you push the bible its more of dribble. Your dribble doesn't say how to cook eggs, fix a bike, or hang a picture. because thats not what it was designed for.
Well guess what ... his breath IS evolution. The rock record, in gods own hand writing tells us evolution. methylation and histines turning on and off parts of DNA is how he is is "breathing". your book is dead, evolution is life.
literal bible is gross.
leanred dat frum dat there jeserous fellerer.
to bad nothing in evolution is based on real science. "after its kind" refutes evolution. That is what we see everyday and what can be observed. The Bible is only dead for those who are not able to understand it---the word of God is LIVING and active... Heb 4:6a
I've already decided based on your previous posts that you really don't know a thing about science or how a theory relates to science.
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points
Good luck.
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