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Do you deny that this "fictional" character has had the real world impacts in bold above that were prophesied some 800 years before His birth????
Yes I do deny it. The character has not even been establishes as existing. What has had an impact is the BELIEF and as you must agree ....belief does not equal truth. It equals POPULARITY.
...and you avoided the question of Brahma. Does his popularity and real world impact mean that the character is true?
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Clearly, you will accept NO evidence that you are wrong.
Certainly I will. ... do you have any?
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The prophecies did NOT specify HOW He would have the impact He has had, Rafe.
WHAT impact. Only one-third of the world's population follow the character. Two-thirds of the population of this planet do not accept his existence or do not believe the stories about him.
Yes I do deny it. The character has not even been establishes as existing. What has had an impact is the BELIEF and as you must agree ....belief does not equal truth. It equals POPULARITY.
...and you avoided the question of Brahma. Does his popularity and real world impact mean that the character is true?
Certainly I will. ... do you have any?
WHAT impact. Only one-third of the world's population follow the character. Two-thirds of the population of this planet do not accept his existence or do not believe the stories about him.
Actually your numbers are a somewhat off.
"Character","never existed".
Careful what you speak.
This is your one.
Sorry mystic.
I was quoting another.
Seems the quoting problem is still around.
Don't be facetious. Harry Potter is a fictional character in a fictional book. Jesus is a real person and He has had real world impact for over 2000+ years all of which can be found in the revelations of prophets. He is validated by His actual impact on the world, NOT failure to fulfill the mistaken EXPECTATIONS of the ancient Jews.When prophecy is used to decide what to expect in the future, THAT is divination. It is only PROPERLY used by evaluating and validating what has actually happened in the world. You have the cart before the horse and that is why you are still waiting for your Mashiach and will continue to wait forever. You are looking for the wrong Mashiach. You can continue to pretend that you do not understand that Jesus really IS the cornerstone that your ancestors rejected by being facetious and coy with your silly supposed examples, but you fool no one least of all the God you must face someday.
From Matthew 21:42
. . . Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'The stone which the builders rejected, has become the corner stone; by the Lord this has been done, and it is wonderful in our eyes?' [Clearly the Jews are the “builders†who rejected Jesus who has, in more ways than one, become the cornerstone!] And that is why they will continue to fail you because they were NOT supposed to develop expectations about the future (divination). They are supposed to allow you to recognize the truth after it happens. Just insert "Jesus" everywhere "He" is found in Isaiah and see if it is not true that "Then shalt thou see and abound, and thy heart shall wonder and be enlarged."
From Isaiah 52:15
. . . He shall sprinkle many nations, kings shall shut their mouth at him: For they to whom it was not told of him, have seen; and they that heard not, have beheld. [The entire European continent of nations (and their kings) would seem to validate this prophecy about Christ.]
From Isaiah 55:4
. . . Behold I have given him for a witness to the people, for a leader and master of the gentiles. [The numerous "Gentile" religions based on Christ certainly validates this prophecy.]
From Isaiah 55:5
. . . Behold thou shalt call a nation which thou knewest not; and the nations that knew not thee shall run to thee, because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, for he hath glorified thee. [The creation of the nation of Israel out of Palestine in 1948 by the "Gentiles" certainly validates this prophecy.]
From Isaiah 60:1
. . . Arise, be enlightened, O Jerusalem: For thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee . . . And the Gentiles shall walk in thy light . . . Then shalt thou see and abound, and thy heart shall wonder and be enlarged, when the multitude of the sea shall be converted to thee, the strength of the Gentiles shall come to thee.[The continued and significant support of the nation of Israel by the "strength" of the United States and other "Gentile" nations seems to cover this one.]
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Do you deny that this "fictional" character has had the real world impacts in bold above that were prophesied some 800 years before His birth???? Clearly, you will accept NO evidence that you are wrong.So what??? The prophecies did NOT specify HOW He would have the impact He has had, Rafe.
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Yes I do deny it. The character has not even been establishes as existing. What has had an impact is the BELIEF and as you must agree ....belief does not equal truth. It equals POPULARITY.
...and you avoided the question of Brahma. Does his popularity and real world impact mean that the character is true?
You are not being honest in trying to understand what is being proposed. You are just knee-jerk reacting with your platitudes and dismissals. Read the prophecies and at least acknowledge that they have occurred. At the very least, someone from 800 years before Christ was inspired to predict what Christ (or someone like Him) would achieve in the world centuries and millennia later. That you can look at the subsequent history and refuse to see that it did occur with respect to Christ is just disingenuous denialism. What was predicted about Brahma's impact on the world that has actually occurred?
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Certainly I will. ... do you have any?
Doesn't deserve a response. You are just being coy.
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WHAT impact. Only one-third of the world's population follow the character. Two-thirds of the population of this planet do not accept his existence or do not believe the stories about him.
There was nothing in the prophecies about the extent of His impact, only that He would have a sustained impact over millennia.
So, if it is only in the NT [which it isn't] then your religion must be a separate religion with no ties to Judaism...
drum roll and symbols please.... now we don't have to wonder why these folks missed him the first time . Thanks for proving the case and the Point Richard , poor Richard. ! But Jesus loves you too
drum roll and symbols please.... now we don't have to wonder why these folks missed him the first time . Thanks for proving the case and the Point Richard , poor Richard. ! But Jesus loves you too
No...We didn't miss him...He doesn't fit the profile of the Mashiach and if he doesn't then he is not the Mashiach...Poor girl...HaShem is still calling out to you, if you could only hear past all this chatter of yours...
No...We didn't miss him...He doesn't fit the profile of the Mashiach and if he doesn't then he is not the Mashiach...Poor girl...HaShem is still calling out to you, if you could only hear past all this chatter of yours...
" the profile" you created in your belly button , protected by and in your tiny closet that you built to protect your belly button which is that place you have buried your head that created the profile? that profile?
Because the rest of humanity.... including boat loads of Jews even in Israel , Now SEE HIM as Messiah because they are actually reading the old and new testament for themselves and not waiting for a rabbi/ Shaman to tell them what they are to think. and so they dropped their List and that Profile you speak of.. and they will be saved from the hour of trial/ Judgment coming on the whole world Because they SEE Him and their Messiah in the Old and New testament words .
sorry but 1/3 of the world is enough of the world for him and His Daddy to build His kingdom of nations from and that will happen very soon.
A hand full of jews 2000 years ago wasn't enough to build a world wide place of peace / Jeru salem from and there to restore mankind to our previous glory and to eternity . a place where peace dwells ... not and kingdom like pox romana through death but a peace away from sin and death, a place for all willing and faithful not holding on to their own kingdoms not building their own power.
1/3 of living humanity, at least 1/3 and more are coming and even more resurrected is enough to build his world wide kingdoms of righteous nations . and so then can He be telling you what you will do with your profile? and at his tree where you can explain to him all about your profiles, the Lists and the demands , poor Richard. so you plan to not help him but to hinder him right? and you will instead wait for your alien messiah right? I seen that video talking about Jews saying how God is an Alien.. No man has become the Alien and is the alien to God because we have fallen so far from what he created !!!
but there Richard sits with his Profile , his list and his demands ! as more and more Jews find their Messiah and will be saved in that horrible time of Joel and Daniel all the prophets of old speak of .
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