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Old 02-13-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I agree totally. It is an abuse of the parent child bond to put conditions on love. My children make their own decisions,and I support them and their partners without conditions. If my child loves someone, I embrace them unconditionally.
I am addressing the double standard on these boards :

The son wants to be accepted for who he is. But he is unwilling to accept his parents for who they are.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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L8gr8t knows from our posting history that we are both survivors and that I support and recognize and applaud her healing.
That's good, I guess , but "We get that you are consumed with bitterness" is in no way a supportive statement, since it was used to dismiss her point. And, who is "we"? L8 has never given me the impression that she's consumed with bitterness (just the opposite, really), so are there others beside yourself who have made that judgment?
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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I am addressing the double standard on these boards :

The son wants to be accepted for who he is. But he is unwilling to accept his parents for who they are.
How is he not accepting them? He invited them to be a part of one of the most important days of his life.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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I am addressing the double standard on these boards :

The son wants to be accepted for who he is. But he is unwilling to accept his parents for who they are.
A parent holds unique power in the relationship with their children. I love you but..... is abusive and manipulative of that bond.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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But that is what the son is saying.
He wants to be accepted for who he is
But he is unwilling to accept his parents for who they are. His mother asked for a hug and he refused.

People on this board are saying celebrate and approve of this lifestyle and beliefs
, but they deem other beliefs are without value or merit.

Say this to yourself over and over until it sinks in.

There is no heterosexual lifestyle
There is no homosexual lifestyle
There are just lives.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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How is he not accepting them? He invited them to be a part of one of the most important days of his life.
The people on these boards say everyone must accept his beliefs and celebrate them and accept him for who he is. The people on these boards however are totally unwilling to accept those who will not attend a particular wedding due to their beliefs. That is the double standard I am addressing.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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A parent holds unique power in the relationship with their children. I love you but..... is abusive and manipulative of that bond.
May you one day be able to let go of rigid black and white thinking and be able to hear others
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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The people on these boards say everyone must accept his beliefs and celebrate them and accept him for who he is. The people on these boards however are totally unwilling to accept those who will not attend a particular wedding due to their beliefs. That is the double standard I am addressing.
His parents chose their religion. They chose poorly.

He did not choose his sexuality. He did not choose his parents. See the difference?
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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It may look that way to you. Some people put "rules" and "laws" in a higher order than others do. I'm as law abiding as anyone but when a law conflicts with what I perceive to be a human being, the person wins. If I thought God was going to punish a gay person with death or torment or just that there was something defective about being gay and I found out my kid was gay, my kid wins. I choose changing my belief(Law) over changing my opinion of my child.

It just happened that one of my favorite people on the planet voted for #45. I choose to change my beliefs about people that voted for #45 over change my beliefs about my friend.
If the mother is afraid that the son is going to be punished by God for who he loves/marries, does she think that by not accepting the marriage, she's going to somehow save him from that? I assume not. So, what does she think she's accomplishing?

Btw, that question isn't directed at you, L8. It's directed at whomever agrees with her behavior.


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The people on these boards say everyone must accept his beliefs and celebrate them. The people on these boards however are totally unwilling to accept those who will not attend a particular wedding due to their beliefs. That is the double standard I am addressing.
No, they aren't saying everyone must accept his beliefs and celebrate them. They're saying that a parent who chooses to indulge their fearful beliefs over and above loving and supporting their child is harming their child. How is that okay?
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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His parents chose their religion. They chose poorly.

He did not choose his sexuality. He did not choose his parents. See the difference?


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If the mother is afraid that the son is going to be punished by God for who he loves/marries, does she think that by not accepting the marriage, she's going to somehow save him from that? I assume not. So, what does she think she's accomplishing?




No, they aren't saying everyone must accept and celebrate his beliefs and celebrate them. They're saying that a parent who chooses to indulge their fearful beliefs over and above loving and supporting their child is harming their child. How is that okay?
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