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Old 10-26-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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While I love Christian-inspired art, architecture, and music (Mozart’s Requiem being my favorite), my true favorite is the King James Bible. I know not whether it is accurate in translation and certainly don’t believe it’s the word of any deity, But never mind; I find the language inspiring and beautiful in many ways, in many places. It remains a bedrock of our language, 416 years later.
Ah, thus the name cyrano..the 19thc, romantic....
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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c'est vrai, mademoiselle....

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Not quite. Cyrano was 17th century. Rostand was 19th. Love the play, "I stand not high, but alone!"
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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Not quite. Cyrano was 17th century. Rostand was 19th. Love the play, "I stand not high, but alone!"
I'm the character; much nicer than the real guy.
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Old 12-26-2018, 09:21 PM
 
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See. You just did it again.

God hates sinners. We are all sinners. Therefore god hates all humans.
Yes. And such as we all WERE. Ephesians 2:4 says that we were children of wrath, as all men were. You should read the REST of Ephesians 2, as well. It has some great news. Not just that we WERE objects of wrath, but the very next verse says that being rich in mercy and love, he made us alive. How? v. 2:9 says we're saved by grace because of faith HE gives us.

So yes--he does hate sinners. But he also loves us, and he saves us. God is that big -- that he can actually love and hate at the same time.
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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God is that big -- that he can actually love and hate at the same time.
There is no hate in love, period, and God IS love!
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Old 12-27-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...snip... God is that big -- that he can actually love and hate at the same time.
That's not big. That's schizophrenia.
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Old 12-27-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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Yes. And such as we all WERE. Ephesians 2:4 says that we were children of wrath, as all men were. You should read the REST of Ephesians 2, as well. It has some great news. Not just that we WERE objects of wrath, but the very next verse says that being rich in mercy and love, he made us alive. How? v. 2:9 says we're saved by grace because of faith HE gives us.

So yes--he does hate sinners. But he also loves us, and he saves us. God is that big -- that he can actually love and hate at the same time.
born sinners is the worst thing that devil of yours had you believe.

It was most certainly not jesus.
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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There is no hate in love, period, and God IS love!
you never really did answer Mike did you? Do you believe that God is just an impersonal Force like Star Wars? Or is God an actual person?

Fact is, love is an attribute of God. We don't worship Love. We worship the one that is loving. But he also is said to hate sin. Or is your version of The Force that lame that it doesn't hate pedophiles and murderers?

Should we start calling you Jedi Master?
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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you never really did answer Mike did you? Do you believe that God is just an impersonal Force like Star Wars? Or is God an actual person?

Fact is, love is an attribute of God. We don't worship Love. We worship the one that is loving. But he also is said to hate sin. Or is your version of The Force that lame that it doesn't hate pedophiles and murderers?

Should we start calling you Jedi Master?
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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