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Old 11-03-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Not in my lifetime or in all our lifetimes.

 
Old 11-03-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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Not in my lifetime or in all our lifetimes.
There just was. And the current one might be one, as well.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There just was. And the current one might be one, as well.
So, if you get to judge and decide what Barack Obama was in terms of his spirituality, and what Donald Trump is in terms of his spirituality, do we not have the same right to judge and decide what you are in terms of your spirituality?

And when you do that, are you not violating your own Bible where it says:

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
 
Old 11-03-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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So, if you get to judge and decide what Barack Obama was in terms of his spirituality, and what Donald Trump is in terms of his spirituality, do we not have the same right to judge and decide what you are in terms of your spirituality?

And when you do that, are you not violating your own Bible where it says:

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Knock yourself out. Judge me by the same standards.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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There just was. And the current one might be one, as well.
I assume Trump probably is atheist or agnostic.

I think Obama was at least nominally Christian, but not of the Fundamentalist variety. In other words, he was like almost every other president, along with many of the founders.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'm sure more than one of your Presidents has only paid lip service to being a believer. Like perhaps most Christians.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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No one in his right mind would openly declare himself to be atheist when he is running for presidency. So you would never know.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Knock yourself out. Judge me by the same standards.
Really? Because in other posts in another thread, you've been complaining about people doing that.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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There all ready was atheists presidents.

of course, there may not be the "deny everything" to sell atheism president, but deist atheist type are more common that you think.
 
Old 11-03-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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I'm sure more than one of your Presidents has only paid lip service to being a believer. Like perhaps most Christians.
yup, for now, in my area, its just easier. And they, the lip service christian, do a lot in my area. Fundy have less of a foot hold.
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