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Old 05-17-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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The OP said in the first post - There is much information in silence if you care to listen for it. What if there is more than just a physical body on a physical world?

There is a lot of evidence out there in all religious texts and in daily life too to suggest there is more to life than just what we see and experience here on this Earth. Maybe "you" exist in many dimensions. In fact, if other "you"s and other "me"s exist then they also exist in other dimensions too. Then you have to ask what those "you"s are made from and the myriad of problems get more complicated. I think you need to look past any explanation which is limited to 3D wording and seek a multidimensional understanding. You need to leave behind the explanation of the universe by any book, or belief system and go for a personal understanding through a spiritual journey to find your larger multidimensional self. That is the only true religion - returning to your potential.
Appeal to Unknowns is evidence of nothing.

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The Bible wasn't written to prove itself to 21st century readers. It was written in an earlier time, and has served its purpose ever since. It wasn't designed to prove itself for every asinine and skeptical person that would walk the planet. You meet it on its terms, or disregard it. The Bible isn't to change or mold itself; the reader and potential student is the one to adjust his or herself.

If you turn it upside down and inside out, it should be no surprise that you won't understand it or find it lacking in details. But that's your fault, not the Bible's.
Excuse me? It sounded as though you said that it isn't relevant for modern readers and therefore is relevant for modern readers - if they stop trying to understand it it and just Believe the faith -claims. And finally of course, any faults they find in the Bible are their fault, not the Bible's.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:17 AM
 
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List of World Religions and Founders, Religious Books, Place of worship - QuickGS.com

During translation, things can and always been changed. Like said, find a book now and find the original scripture, and you can bet it will not be the same.
But this rag is supposed to be from a god
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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Because it's poorly constructed fiction.
Still waiting on proof that the Bible is fiction.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Still waiting on proof that the Bible is fiction.

Prove a man can live inside a fish for three days.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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Prove a man can live inside a fish for three days.

Next question?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bartley
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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List of World Religions and Founders, Religious Books, Place of worship - QuickGS.com

During translation, things can and always been changed. Like said, find a book now and find the original scripture, and you can bet it will not be the same.
I'd encourage you to do some actual research. The story of the Dead Sea Scrolls is amazing. It demonstrates how serious the scribes were to correctly copy the texts, as they almost identically matched texts that were 1000 years newer when found. They verified that yes--they did painstakingly copy the texts and did not change them as you assume.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Nice try Jeff . Not good enough. It is easy to read prophecy into - or rather out of - the Bible after the event. It would be an interesting exercise if you started (or resurrected - there must have been a few on the subject) a thread with example of these predictions (1) and we can look at them in context.
This is always the knee jerk reply anytime you bring up Bible prophecy, no matter how detailed it is. Just claim that people performed actions to force fit the prophecy! Easy peasey. Really? Am I really to believe that the Jews forced themselves to be scattered to all nations, suffer great persecution and then become a nation again turning a desert wasteland into a fruitful nation?

Israel today is a jewel in the Middle East. I watch videos from people living there and amazed at how the country side is just as lush and green as America. Grain and fruits are a major export from Isreal. The only place that can compare is Dubai which is nothing more than an illusion requiring millions of gallons of water to be pumped in to transform their desert landscape. This didn't happen by mere chance. It was a miracle from God. And it's not a coincidence that they are the focal point of world politics. Just like the Bible predicted. And you can find it all in Ezekiel 36.

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It is hardly surprising that after 2,000 years of warfare it was generally known that you open somebody up and let the blood out, the life force will generally go with it. i agree that, these days, the fetish for blood letting as a medical practice seems less than sensible, but it hardly makes your claim (if correct) advanced scientific knowledge.
It's not surprising to us because we understand how blood operates and is essential to the human body. But even back in the Greeks, they didn't understand that blood circulates through the body. They even believed that air ran through the veins not blood. Being so clueless, I can see where they would have not made the connection of a loss of blood being the direct cause of death. They would look at it as a side of effect to something else that caused the death like a loss of air.

The fact remains that at the time period, the verse flew in opposition to the common beliefs at the time.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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Come on BFun, grow up man.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fi...or-three-days/
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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That's a different story. Never heard of that guy.
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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Prove a man can live inside a fish for three days.
Lack of proof is not proof. The claim was presented that the Bible is fiction. Back it up. For ONCE!!
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