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You don't seem to be especially anxious to defend that which you presumably believe to be true yourself. If you aren't prepared to defend the story of Joshua's long day, or Jonah's big fish story, then why should anyone give serious consideration to Christian claims that the corpse of Jesus came back to life and flew away?
You don't seem to be especially anxious to defend that which you presumably believe to be true yourself. If you aren't prepared to defend the story of Joshua's long day, or Jonah's big fish story, then why should anyone give serious consideration to Christian claims that the corpse of Jesus came back to life and flew away?
That’s not the topic. Why are you trying to hijack this thread?
I think this fact is undeniable. All of Jesus predictions for the future are given the exact timeline of "A Generation" (40 years) and clearly represent events of the Roman-Jewish war of 70 A.D. He says Jerusalem will be encircled with a war, the temple will be razed, etc. Most Christian scholars acknowledge that at least some of these predictions are about the war. Somehow there has developed the idea that there is another, global End Times that will be bigger and will come at an unspecified time in the future.
Another thing. Jesus never says that he will come again. He says his predictions are for when "The Son of Man" comes. It's quite a stretch to think that the was both talking about himself in third person and using a different term for himself.
In summary, the idea of a 2nd Coming of Jesus thousands of years later is not supported in the Gospels.
To lay further questions and objections to rest, another school of interpretation was developed. So just how and when did the Preterist school of prophetic interpretation begin? Dr. Guinness in his book The Approaching End of the Age answers that thought-provoking question with this observation:
The first or PRETERIST scheme, considers these prophecies to have been fulfilled in the downfall of the Jewish nation and the old Roman Empire, limiting their range thus to the first six centuries of the Christian era, and making Nero Antichrist.
This scheme originated with the Jesuit Alcazar toward the end of the sixteenth century; it has been held and taught under various modifications by Grotuis, Hammond, Bossuet, Eichhorn and other German commentators, Moses Stuart, and Dr. Davidson. It has few supporters now, and need not be described more at length.
Notice that Dr. Guinness mentions that Preterism had few supporters in 1887. However, today it is enjoying resurgence and is the view held by many of the Reformed faith. Those of the Preterist school of interpretation should take special note of Dr. Guinness' statement taken from page 113 of Romanism and the Reformation:
Some writers asserted that the predictions pointed back to Nero. This did not take into account the obvious fact that the antichrist power predicted was to succeed the fall of the Caesars, and develop among the Gothic nations.
That’s not the topic. Why are you trying to hijack this thread?
You continue to make claims that Jesus indicated that he would return. But as I already pointed out, Jesus wrote nothing himself. If the Bible is not credible, then you have no case.
You continue to make claims that Jesus indicated that he would return. But as I already pointed out, Jesus wrote nothing himself. If the Bible is not credible, then you have no case.
Still off-topic. The OP assumes the validity of Jesus’ words (as written down by others), regarding whether or not He would return.
Yes, Jesus and angels are quoted as confirming His eventual return.
I think this fact is undeniable. All of Jesus predictions for the future are given the exact timeline of "A Generation" (40 years) and clearly represent events of the Roman-Jewish war of 70 A.D. He says Jerusalem will be encircled with a war, the temple will be razed, etc. Most Christian scholars acknowledge that at least some of these predictions are about the war. Somehow there has developed the idea that there is another, global End Times that will be bigger and will come at an unspecified time in the future.
Another thing. Jesus never says that he will come again. He says his predictions are for when "The Son of Man" comes. It's quite a stretch to think that the was both talking about himself in third person and using a different term for himself.
In summary, the idea of a 2nd Coming of Jesus thousands of years later is not supported in the Gospels.
"At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory."
Do you know who said this?
I think this fact is undeniable. All of Jesus predictions for the future are given the exact timeline of "A Generation" (40 years) and clearly represent events of the Roman-Jewish war of 70 A.D. He says Jerusalem will be encircled with a war, the temple will be razed, etc. Most Christian scholars acknowledge that at least some of these predictions are about the war. Somehow there has developed the idea that there is another, global End Times that will be bigger and will come at an unspecified time in the future.
Another thing. Jesus never says that he will come again. He says his predictions are for when "The Son of Man" comes. It's quite a stretch to think that the was both talking about himself in third person and using a different term for himself.
In summary, the idea of a 2nd Coming of Jesus thousands of years later is not supported in the Gospels.
Did you know?
In 1850s China, a man named Hong Xiuquan founded his sect of christianity claiming to be the ''2nd son of God'' and younger brother of Jesus. His sect got SO popular that he almost overthrew the government at the time. His followers killed around twenty million people across China.
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