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Old 06-25-2018, 06:58 PM
 
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This is not about the religious authorities and hierarchies which have tried to stop scientific progress for political purposes. So please don't discuss that in this thread.

The true faith in God is what allowed for science to blossom. Religious people believed in a higher order in the universe. They didn't think it was merely random stuff which formed the universe.

Their ancient texts attest to this view of an awesome universe with a higher order and design.

What do you think of the idea that religious people may have been the first people with a knowledge and respect for what would later become science?

 
Old 06-25-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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No.

A religious person usually starts with what he firmly believes to be true, then he thinks that he is using science to prove it.

A true scientist starts with a question, tests the question, and accepts whatever the result is.

Ozzy...everything in the world is not the result of christianity. Honestly, you need to get out more.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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LOL this wins hands down as the most ridiculous post ever!

Religious folks only wish they could make this claim.

Just google how many scientists were killed off when the church ruled the land, simply for exposing their scientific discoveries that flew in the face of their religious beliefs.

This alone set us back 100's of years in scientific progress and discovery.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:04 PM
 
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I think Ozzy needs to pass over and have a chat with Galileo.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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It's remarkable that at a time that almost everyone was religious, religions ran the schools and universities and had the funds to pay for academic work that non religious folks were not at the forefront of science. You need to figure out how religious were the Greeks and why the church kept that knowledge from even the educated people to conclude that religion led in science.

You could also state that religion was in the forefront of having babies, fishing, raising crops or making war weapons.

Before science developed atheist were put to death for heresy so how do you really know if a person back then was religious or just played it safe?

Just another of your threads claiming that any belief in any god is superior to a lack in a belief on any of them.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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Practically every response here violated the first statement in my OP.

Do you people really have such poor reading skills? Or do you really have no clue about the difference faith and "the church"?

I'm beginning to think that the new atheists really are not very bright people. Not the sharpest tools in the shed, so to speak,
(That's a figure of speech by the way).
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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Here's a good article about this specious claim of Ozzy's:

https://nobeliefs.com/comments10.htm
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:31 PM
 
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Practically every response here violated the first statement in my OP.

Do you people really have such poor reading skills? Or do you really have no clue about the difference faith and "the church"?

I'm beginning to think that the new atheists really are not very bright people. Not the sharpest tools in the shed, so to speak,
(That's a figure of speech by the way).
You're trying to rig the topic because you know it will be much harder to discuss something so nebulous. That's very dishonest.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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Here's a good article about this specious claim of Ozzy's:

https://nobeliefs.com/comments10.htm
Again, you posted something about the church. Completely off topic.

I think that some atheists just don't like the fact that religious people have often been more in tune with understanding the cosmos throughout history. But they don't even want to think about that. They just want to ridicule the idea.
 
Old 06-25-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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You're trying to rig the topic because you know it will be much harder to discuss something so nebulous. That's very dishonest.
That's fine. I respect if you believe that.

But if people have nothing to say in regards to my original question, then I wish people wouldn't even respond. I'd rather have zero responses than a hundred off topic ones.
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