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Old 08-21-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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I've made no secret of that.
I asked for your "take"..
hope it was ok I still put my 2 cents in.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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If it contradicts what God has already says, it's not from God, since God is not a liar. If it agrees with what God has already said, why is it needed?
No 'need'. Just happens.

I suppose, also, one could say...been to the restaurant,
saw the menu,
smelled the great food,
now why do we want to experience the food directly? It's nice.
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:18 AM
 
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If it contradicts what God has already says, it's not from God, since God is not a liar. If it agrees with what God has already said, why is it needed?
If the record of what God is supposed to have said were consistent and reliable you might have a leg to stand on, though individual commitment to the basis of the faith in the "New Commandment" would indicate that the guidance is a matter of application of that principle.
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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No 'need'. Just happens.

I suppose, also, one could say...been to the restaurant,
saw the menu,
smelled the great food,
now why do we want to experience the food directly? It's nice.
The menu for my local Chinese Restauant is in Italian.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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The menu for my local Chinese Restauant is in Italian.
What on earth are you talking about But thanks for the laugh.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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No 'need'. Just happens.

I suppose, also, one could say...been to the restaurant,
saw the menu,
smelled the great food,
now why do we want to experience the food directly? It's nice.
I'm just asking why? Why would God give a vision if he's said it already?

As for the menu analogy...if the menu says it's Kung Pao chicken and I experience it as Greek Yogurt....something is perhaps confused.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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If the record of what God is supposed to have said were consistent and reliable you might have a leg to stand on, though individual commitment to the basis of the faith in the "New Commandment" would indicate that the guidance is a matter of application of that principle.
And there you go. Your views of Jesus is only correct if you attack Scripture and convince people it's not reliable. The issue that I have then, is why is the individual revelation you believe you have received that contradicts said Scripture to be taken as more reliable?
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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The human brain is capable of producing all kinds of bizarre experiences. And there are plenty of chemicals that can produce bizarre experiences in the human brain when ingested.

In a pre-scientific age, it is likely that many people interpreted these experiences as direct encounters with the supernatural. In pre-scientific regions of the United States, these experiences are still interpreted as direct encounters with the supernatural.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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Since we are away from the Christianity Forums....what is your take?
I have aphantasia, so I don't have visions (no mind's eye, ears, taste, touch or smell). But, my best guess is that visions are not really any different than me experiencing a deluge of thoughts all on the same subject. So, I'd say whatever we're "tuned into" is likely to attract thoughts of the same sort, and the longer we stay with them, the more momentum they have to attract more and so it can become quite intense. Those thoughts can be translated by us in any way our minds processes things, visual or otherwise.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:13 PM
 
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Why does everything have to go through science,logic and reason and those ancient masculine principles why can’t anything intuitive,spiritual exist.The visions or dreams I have are too meaningful to be the result of some sort of error like psychiatry etc says.You know the Anglo Saxons called the brain a spirit chest why are we not allowed to have this view of it but have to constantly omit the spiritual,supernatural and intuitive from our vocabulary in favour of a scientific or reasoned view.Just because it’s your brain producing it doesn’t omit it from being spiritual in nature.

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The human brain is capable of producing all kinds of bizarre experiences. And there are plenty of chemicals that can produce bizarre experiences in the human brain when ingested.

In a pre-scientific age, it is likely that many people interpreted these experiences as direct encounters with the supernatural. In pre-scientific regions of the United States, these experiences are still interpreted as direct encounters with the supernatural.

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