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Old 08-19-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Does anyone else think that religious belief is another way of conforming to the traditional beliefs of the culture?

In other words, how you feel about conforming to this set of standards and beliefs, determines your level of religious belief, or your atheism. As soon as one starts to question certain attitudes and standards, does a person also begin to question his "God" at the same time? This questioning actually comes first while he is still a believer, then the religious questioning immediately follows.

Does anyone here who used to be more religious also correspond your turning away from the faith as a way of "rebelling" against traditions?

 
Old 08-19-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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I don't know. It's a question that could benefit from some discussion.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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And I could understand how, in the olden days a family of farmers or shephers/ranchers going back for generations would tend to pass down their religious beliefs. Things didn't really change that much from generation to generation back then.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 06:33 PM
 
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I don't know. It's a question that could benefit from some discussion.
Except that the problem is that sooner or later Ozzy wil miraculously conclude that it somehow gives evidence to the validity of christianity.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:09 AM
 
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If so, discussion of that will see whether the claim is vaidi. Discussion ended, we will all have learned something. or we should.

Atheism should be willing to discuss and look at anything . Wherever it leads, using logic and evidence, is worth following. Atheism (iot is almost an Axiom) doesn't need to be afraid to look at anything - even atheism.

Finger pointing at what's wrong with atheism, claims of atheist crimes and atrocities, Accusations of our posting methods, Professor Stavrakapoulou saying that we are following the wrong kind of atheists, criticism of the legal initiatives - are all to be carefully listened to. They may have warnings that atheism should heed. So far (apart from the posting methods and the and the campaign methods), they haven't, but there's always a first time.

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Old 08-20-2018, 03:23 AM
 
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Not in my case. I rebelled against the religion I grew up in while still being a believer. I assumed there was something wrong with me for rebelling. I don't even know if rebel is the correct word; I just didn't think I was one of the elect. Then, still a believer, I figured out there was something wrong with them for going a long with it. Concluding that the deity claim didn't have sufficient evidence was separate. I had doubts all along, but until I picked the first lock of differentiating between the religion I grew up in and God Himself, actually freely examining the claim would have been impossible.

So no, atheism isn't an act of rebelling or taking some counter culture stand. It's just a conclusion that makes the most sense like any other conclusions people have.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:52 AM
 
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Rebelling is perhaps not the right word. It can well be used by Religious authority to cow the Faithful into not having questions. But That's word - questioning. Questioning in the basis of science and logic. There was a thread recently on a pastor peddling the dangerous doctrine of faith -healing rather than medicine. A former theist online pal of mine said that his deconversion (really the result of a small thing releasing a torrent of walled -off Doubt) was from seeing a minister buying puggle in a drug store.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 03:58 AM
 
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Ozzy, after mentioned Jung on another thread I thought maybe this would interest you.

Steps of the Individuation Process
 
Old 08-20-2018, 04:08 AM
 
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Except that the problem is that sooner or later Ozzy wil miraculously conclude that it somehow gives evidence to the validity of christianity.
Either that or he'll do another dramatic 'flounce'. They do love to flounce ...these Christians.
 
Old 08-20-2018, 04:33 AM
 
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Ozzy, after mentioned Jung on another thread I thought maybe this would interest you.

Steps of the Individuation Process
Jung was amazing. Just that little bit is fascinating.
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