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Old 10-22-2018, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It is one thing to cherrypick a philosophy written by humans and quite another to cherrypick a book promoted as the word of a god.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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It is one thing to cherrypick a philosophy written by humans and quite another to cherrypick a book promoted as the word of a god.
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Why is it different if you know it is NOT the “word of God”?
Beat me to it. What about those Christians who understand it was written by men and don't believe it to literally be the word of God?

That's why we say our church is based on Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. Reason allows one to "cherry-pick" the difference between "love your neighbors" and stoning the people you don't like or agree with. Reason allows one to find metaphors and meaning in stories even when one believes that what's told in those stories cannot possibly have happened.
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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Beat me to it. What about those Christians who understand it was written by men and don't believe it to literally be the word of God?

That's why we say our church is based on Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. Reason allows one to "cherry-pick" the difference between "love your neighbors" and stoning the people you don't like or agree with. Reason allows one to find metaphors and meaning in stories even when one believes that what's told in those stories cannot possibly have happened.
And former Christians.
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Amen. Not to mention, it’s impossible to do otherwise. Some people just don’t realize they’re doing it.
I agree. The latter is an issue.
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It is one thing to cherrypick a philosophy written by humans and quite another to cherrypick a book promoted as the word of a god.
It depends on your position.

I take wisdom where I can find. There's some in the bible...but that has nothing to do with any magical power. There's some in the Tipitaka. Wisdom is in a variety of places.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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And former Christians.
Oops, didn't mean to leave anyone out!
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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Why is it different if you know it is NOT the “word of God”?
It is different because it contains information about the Word of God (Logos - which means the essence or true nature of God) as embodied in a very special human - the Christ. It provides details of His character and the principles that guide His life and chronicles the impact of His life and death on our human understanding of God over centuries.

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Old 10-22-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Why is it different if you know it is NOT the “word of God”?
Largely because picking manmade philosophies does not suggest supernatural knowledge or existence. On the other hand, claiming a book is revelation of a god only in parts your agree with is nonsensical support for a mythical being and supernatural awareness. Sadly, you are guilty of the same.
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It depends on your position.

I take wisdom where I can find. There's some in the bible...but that has nothing to do with any magical power. There's some in the Tipitaka. Wisdom is in a variety of places.
Which I have no problem with. My problem is with those who claim the supernatural/divinity, while excusing detrimental evidence to the contrary. Christianity is wildly guilty of this. I would have more respect for those who worship Jesus philosophically and not claim his divinity.
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Beat me to it. What about those Christians who understand it was written by men and don't believe it to literally be the word of God?

That's why we say our church is based on Scripture, Tradition, and Reason. Reason allows one to "cherry-pick" the difference between "love your neighbors" and stoning the people you don't like or agree with. Reason allows one to find metaphors and meaning in stories even when one believes that what's told in those stories cannot possibly have happened.
I have no problem with this. Again, my beef is with those who claim the bible is divinely inspired as evidence of a god.
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