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Old 03-13-2021, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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...fear.

If atheists are right, many believers would think their lives wasted.

The thought is as terrifying as ... as...the prospect of an eternity in hell!

It's unthinkable.

So, they don't.

Until confronted with at-total-peace-with-themselves atheists.

How dare they feel good about life, themselves, their children and the future?

And so it goes.

 
Old 03-13-2021, 07:58 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I posted something on this way back. It's was more from an apostate angle but some atheists are apostates so it might apply in some cases.

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The Believer and the Apostate

There is quite possibly no greater threat to the believer than the existence of the apostate. In order to reduce dissonance, the true believer must assume that their own particular system of faith is so obviously true that no open-minded seeker who is fully appraised of the facts can fail to accept it. The apostate represents the real-world disconfirmation of this assumption. It is possible to ascribe the existence of non-believers to several sources – the work of the Enemy, or a deliberate (and thus rebellious) close-mindedness or even, in some cases, non-election. The apostate, however, is in a different class altogether.

I thought I would pass this along if anyone is having trouble with friends or family.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I posted something on this way back. It's was more from an apostate angle but some atheists are apostates so it might apply in some cases.
Yeah.

What I said.

Only way better.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 08:05 PM
 
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...fear.

If atheists are right, many believers would think their lives wasted.

The thought is as terrifying as ... as...the prospect of an eternity in hell!

It's unthinkable.

So, they don't.

Until confronted with at-total-peace-with-themselves atheists.

How dare they feel good about life, themselves, their children and the future?

And so it goes.
Lots of religions don't have the hell threat loaming overhead.


Not sure what percentage of believers actually hate non believers. S9me 9n this forum sure but how common is it really?
 
Old 03-13-2021, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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...fear.

If atheists are right, many believers would think their lives wasted.
Trying to be more like Jesus would never be wasted in any circumstance.

Serving others. Loving others. Charity. Peace. Expectant waiting. All beneficial and improving life.



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The thought is as terrifying as ... as...the prospect of an eternity in hell!
God is love. There is no hell, except in our minds.



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It's unthinkable.

So, they don't.

Until confronted with at-total-peace-with-themselves atheists.

How dare they feel good about life, themselves, their children and the future?
Meh, my husband isn't a believer. It's okay. I can feel Jesus and fully believe in Jesus.



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And so it goes.
A few years ago I had to read Slaughter House 5 in English class, did you read that? One of the few books I read the whole one on...too busy working, doing community service, soccer to read every page of all assignments

So it goes.... to me means that we are all alive somewhere in some time.

https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/slaug...-it-goes-mean/
 
Old 03-13-2021, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I guess I wasn't clear.

I had no intention of painting all believers with that brush.

I meant "believers who hate atheism/ists."

I realize they would be a small minority of believers. Believers I know and love have no ax to grind against any group.

Yet, we have seen several examples, most notably recently, of a believer exhibiting hatred and fear of atheists in no uncertain terms.

If fear is not at the root of their vociferous antipathy - what is?
 
Old 03-13-2021, 09:12 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I guess I wasn't clear.

I had no intention of painting all believers with that brush.

I meant "believers who hate atheism/ists."

I realize they would be a small minority of believers. Believers I know and love have no ax to grind against any group.

Yet, we have seen several examples, most notably recently, of a believer exhibiting hatred and fear of atheists in no uncertain terms.

If fear is not at the root of their vociferous antipathy - what is?
I've been contemplating pulling up quotes from a fellow believer of hers but that sounded like too much work and also more of the same.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 11:03 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
I guess I wasn't clear.

I had no intention of painting all believers with that brush.

I meant "believers who hate atheism/ists."

I realize they would be a small minority of believers. Believers I know and love have no ax to grind against any group.

Yet, we have seen several examples, most notably recently, of a believer exhibiting hatred and fear of atheists in no uncertain terms.

If fear is not at the root of their vociferous antipathy - what is?
Some people ARE hateful.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 11:24 PM
 
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...fear.

If atheists are right, many believers would think their lives wasted.

The thought is as terrifying as ... as...the prospect of an eternity in hell!

It's unthinkable.

So, they don't.

Until confronted with at-total-peace-with-themselves atheists.

How dare they feel good about life, themselves, their children and the future?

And so it goes.
They sure don't want to be told, much less convinced, they've been workshiping a false god all these years, with all that implies
 
Old 03-14-2021, 12:08 AM
 
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They sure don't want to be told, much less convinced, they've been workshiping a false god all these years, with all that implies
the notion that atheism could convince anyone of anything
is amusing.


because atheism is nothing. and has nothing.
it has no power. to do anything.
it is utterly without.

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