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You really don't have a clue how the doctrine is taught, do you? Do you even know what it is?
Because I know the history of the early church better than you do?
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
No Biblical scholar that I know of would say it's based on one passage.
I did not say it was based on one passage, I said there is only one passage in the NT that is specifically Trinitarian. Everything else is ambiguous and misrepresentation.
Because I know the history of the early church better than you do?
That's debatable, but so what? The doctrine is not based off of what some guys wrote a hundred years later. It's based on what Jesus said, and the apostles wrote.
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I did not say it was based on one passage, I said there is only one passage in the NT that is specifically Trinitarian. Everything else is ambiguous and misrepresentation.
And I'm telling you that your statement doesn't make much difference. The Trinity is a doctrine that is derived from MANY different passages, throughout Scripture, in different books. It's kind of a nonsensical statement to say that it is not Biblical and it tells me you have not seriously studied it if you think that.
"Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord." Job 2:1
That's debatable, but so what? The doctrine is not based off of what some guys wrote a hundred years later. It's based on what Jesus said, and the apostles wrote.
And I'm telling you that your statement doesn't make much difference. The Trinity is a doctrine that is derived from MANY different passages, throughout Scripture, in different books. It's kind of a nonsensical statement to say that it is not Biblical and it tells me you have not seriously studied it if you think that.
Bro, why don't you go with the water, steam, ice metaphor.
Or the Father-God in Heaven, Jesus-God on earth, Holy Spirit- God in us (or you) in this case.
It would be a heck of a lot simpler if God was just God, and Jesus was just God's name when he was on earth.... and "God" could be in your soul or heart or wherever he stays in people. The name "Holy Spirit" name isn't really necessary. You could just be "God filled" instead of "Holy Spirit filled".
I think the "spirit" thing got in there because "God filled" people show through their behavior and speech that they have a lot of spirit. Sort of like how cheerleaders show "spirit" at football games.
BF, Trinity discussions are restricted to one thread and are off-topic here. The phrase "firstborn" implies there will be more (second, third, and fourth born, etc.). It is not rocket science.
BF, Trinity discussions are restricted to one thread and are off-topic here. The phrase "firstborn" implies there will be more (second, third, and fourth born, etc.). It is not rocket science.
Trinity discussions are off limits??? I didn't know that.
BF, Trinity discussions are restricted to one thread and are off-topic here. The phrase "firstborn" implies there will be more (second, third, and fourth born, etc.). It is not rocket science.
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Trinity discussions are off limits??? I didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
Like Universalism, they have been confined to a single thread.
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I've asked a moderator to clarify since I don't see that in the rules. But maybe I missed it.
The thread is in the Christianity forum. We merged several thread together and locked over a dozen others.
That's debatable, but so what? The doctrine is not based off of what some guys wrote a hundred years later. It's based on what Jesus said, and the apostles wrote.
The opposite is also based on the alleged sayings.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
And I'm telling you that your statement doesn't make much difference. The Trinity is a doctrine that is derived from MANY different passages, throughout Scripture, in different books.
So are other doctrines.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
It's kind of a nonsensical statement to say that it is not Biblical and it tells me you have not seriously studied it if you think that.
So you have a conclusion based on the opposite of what I said. Hatschi - Sorry, that must be my straw allergy.
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