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Ist thank you. I'm doing great, and hesitated to share.
I find this topic critical, in light of recent developments in AI and nano technology. I think many will be wrestling with these ideas for a long time to come.
What is becoming more and more clear to me on a scientific and terrestrial level, is how little we will ultimately rely on flesh, or that which is organic.
Could these developments be described optimistically, as a decrease in fleshly things, and an increase in " Spiritual " things??
Both “fleshly” things and “spiritual” things contain within them the same Substance/Existence. Both are names and forms, belong to the world, and are unreal. The Substance is the only Existence.
Not sure I understand which question you are asking?
Your thread title seems to differ from the question in the OP which actually also seems to be a further two questions:
Is Consciousness the Extraordinary Masquerading as the Ordinary?
Am I conscious or Am I Consciousness Itself?
That which is limited and subject to change or That which is without limit and changeless?
Not sure how to respond. Are you just asking for our opinions on what we think consciousness is?
I think the questions are meant to be pondered. Your opinion on consciousness will be based on what you already know, or think you know. The questions when analyzed carefully will reveal new ways of understanding the meaning of consciousness.
I recently contracted a severe case of shingles on/in my right ear.
It has permanently damaged my vestibular system, and now requires physical therapy to regain balance. My hearing, and word comprehension has also been affected.
The shingles also caused bells palsy which damaged the 7th and 8th facial nerves.
Affecting taste, smell, and vision.
The physical therapy involves traing the brain to create different synapses to make up for the damage. In other words part of my brain stopped working, and other parts have to pick up the slack.
My senses and perception have technically changed.
But I'm the same person. The same individual. No difference at all ( except I'm an impatient and lousey patient ) in my self awareness.
I know I'm no mental vegetable, but my current reality has changed.Physiologically, the tools of perception have been damaged.
What's fascinating about this whole thing is my glimpse into the future, when all of me begins decaying more rapidly. Eventually nothing will work. But I'll still be me.
(PS: I have some great doctors and physical therapists. I've made major improvements and suspect at the end of the day I'll just have some hearing loss. Spent several hours this morning trimming palm trees. So I'm not that bad)
Thank you for sharing this extraordinary insight. May i ask what kind of doctors did you consult to help you with your recovery? You may DM me if you can. I suspect someone I know who may have similar difficulties and loss of perception, but not due to shingles.
How about this? What if consciousness is really a parasite and all of this is really just Ego trying to enshrine itself.
If I were to use the parasite analogy ego would be the parasite. In fact the psychological model within Samkhya (very old Indian school of philosophy) describes Ego (Ahamkara) as the appropriating function of mind. The I-Maker. I am this or that. It's mine, not yours. It makes Consciousness its own. I am conscious when in fact that "I" is simply a bundle of thoughts.
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Ist thank you. I'm doing great, and hesitated to share.
I find this topic critical, in light of recent developments in AI and nano technology. I think many will be wrestling with these ideas for a long time to come.
What is becoming more and more clear to me on a scientific and terrestrial level, is how little we will ultimately rely on flesh, or that which is organic.
Could these developments be described optimistically, as a decrease in fleshly things, and an increase in " Spiritual " things??
My take is neuroscience/psychology is not wrong when it states (localized) consciousness is illusion as is free will. Both are products of deterministic processes of the body-mind complex. Realizing that as in actual "lived experience" is Freedom, i.e. Liberation (from suffering).
My take is neuroscience/psychology is not wrong when it states (localized) consciousness is illusion as is free will. Both are products of deterministic processes of the body-mind complex. Realizing that as in actual "lived experience" is Freedom, i.e. Liberation (from suffering).
Advaita calls it the state of ignorance, a state that has no origin and a natural state. Thus also difficult to overcome. Psychotherapy may help but what is required is Self-Inquiry.
Am I conscious or Am I Consciousness Itself? That which is limited and subject to change or That which is without limit and changeless?
You are the consciousness of the itself and self, between the ego of mind of matter that is infinite. At least, that's what Boojie said
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