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Someone who has been convicted of murder beyond a reasonable doubt has done something deserving of death. Moderator cut: Discussing abortion is not permitted in this forum. Read the rules.
The Bible advocates, if not commands us to do, capital punishment for those guilty of murder:
1. Exodus 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.
2. Numbers 35:16-17 But if someone strikes and kills another person with a piece of iron, it is murder, and the murderer must be executed. Or if someone with a stone in his hand strikes and kills another person, it is murder, and the murderer must be put to death.
3. Genesis 9:6 If anyone takes a human life, that person’s life will also be taken by human hands. For God made human beings in his own image.
It is funny. If this were about eating lobsters or cheeseburgers... we'd have already have had the "but that was the old covenant" trope tossed onto the board.
So I'm going to throw it out there now. God USED to advocate/command capital punishment for those guilty of murder... But that was the "old covenant. Jesus death on the cross frees us from having to capitally punish those guilty of murder."
Man is a steward. God has always entrusted men to carry out His work on earth. If we operate on the principle that to *do a thing* takes that out of God's hands, then we could literally never do anything.
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Originally Posted by QuakerBaker
The execution also means that that person has less time to make amends and "get right with God" before going to judgement day or whatever the belief of purgatory, hell, heaven, etc...
On the contrary; to know the time of one's death in advance is a great blessing. It tends to focus one's mind on what is truly important. It takes virtually no time to make amends and get right with God. All it takes is to confess one's sin and to repent of them.
You have conceded that Scripture sanctions the death penalty. Even in the New Testament, Paul sanctions it in Romans 13. Principles of justice do not change over time.
That said, one can certainly argue the *prudence* of any particular government enforcing the death penalty at any given time and in any given case. One could indeed make an argument that most contemporary governments are not competent to enforce capital punishment with any semblance of justice.
But that aside, certain crimes are indeed deserving of death. That point should not be debatable.
While I believe that some people deserve to die for their crimes, the death penalty has proven far more trouble than its worth. It’s not an effective deterrent, it can’t be applied fairly, and it costs far more in court and other governmental resources, with the inherently long and drawn-out appeals process, than to simply sentence someone to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
The bolded is only because Christian monarchies of the past have been replaced with "fraternal republics" based on Revolutionary enlightenment ideas (liberté, égalité, fraternité).
Yes. The root of christianity and muslim religions (no matter how many times they split) is the judaic religoin. They all worshipo the same god and have the same foundation.
The bolded is only because Christian monarchies of the past have been replaced with "fraternal republics" based on Revolutionary enlightenment ideas (liberté, égalité, fraternité).
Restore Christian monarchy and restore justice.
In my line of work, we call these conclusory assertions.
So if your loved one is murdered, you’ll just “turn the other cheek”? You won’t seek justice?
I think a lifetime in prison without the possibility of parole, so the guy never sees the light of day, would constitute justice to me. At some point, the perp has to stand before the Lord and hold himself to account on judgement day, and that is the most terrifying justice I can think of. Even if he repents and comes to Christ, saving his soul, he will still have to stand before the Lord some day.
I think a lifetime in prison without the possibility of parole, so the guy never sees the light of day, would constitute justice to me. At some point, the perp has to stand before the Lord and hold himself to account on judgement day, and that is the most terrifying justice I can think of. Even if he repents and comes to Christ, saving his soul, he will still have to stand before the Lord some day.
There is no such thing. Presidents can pardon, laws can change, sentences can be commuted.
I think a lifetime in prison without the possibility of parole, so the guy never sees the light of day, would constitute justice to me. At some point, the perp has to stand before the Lord and hold himself to account on judgement day, and that is the most terrifying justice I can think of. Even if he repents and comes to Christ, saving his soul, he will still have to stand before the Lord some day.
In your religion. Not in mine.
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