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Yes, I do 110%. My reason? I've worked with hundreds of people over the years who truly and absolutely thought they wanted to end their lives. They would do it, if given the chance. Most of these people, when given the proper help and tools overcome these feelings, went on to live normal happy lives. They overcame. Most were thankful they were able to come out of the dark hole they were in and find life again. I think most people who feel suicidal can be rehabilitated. It is just when you are in that situation, you never visualize a way out. But there is, there always is.....
When I was a teen the youth director at the church I attended committed suicide. He was a young guy, 24 or 25, had a toddler and a newborn baby. He told his wife to take the kids to church for Wednesday night prayer meeting and while they were gone, he put a gun in his mouth and shot himself. Of course the church was devestated...it was such an unthinkable thing for this guy to do. At his funeral the pastor explained that for whatever reason, Alex just simply flipped out that night. He compared it to a mental breakdown and said that if he had died as a result of cancer, we wouldn't be condeming him....because he chose to take his life that night, we shouldn't condemn him for that either. It made sense to me then and it still does now, 30 years later.
I could say with more certainty that the atheist comedian went to hell before the person who committed suicide.
That was pretty cold, George Carlin told it like it is and I feel like you have expressed a certain sense of glee that an atheist is suffering eternal torment. That's really kind of sad.
The thing about suicide is that you can't repent of it...
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Originally Posted by MontanaGuy
I know we've discussed the topic of assisted suicide when someone is dying and in pain with no chance of a recovery but what about suicide in general? I remember when I was living in Arizona that a lawyer who was drinking and driving, had his ten year old son in the car with him at the time, and then he struck and killed a teenage boy across the street from the High School about a half mile from my house. That man was so overcome with what he had done that he committed suicide. To be honest I'm not sure how I feel about it myself. On the one hand he may have been thinking about how he had destroyed his own life by his actions and couldn't face the consequences of being sent to prison and losing the comfortable life that he was used to. He also may have been so overwhelmed with grief for the dead boy that he felt he didn't deserve to live. No one will ever know what he was thinking. Do you think this was an immoral act to kill himself?
Let me give a different example. There are quite a few kids who get bullied and picked on at school for various reasons and it's not uncommon for a child who just can't take anymore to take his or her own life. Now this example seems a little more clear cut in my opinion. I would just consider it to be a terrible trajedy but would not blame that child or consider the action to be sinful or immoral, they were just unable to endure any more emotional abuse and couldn't see any other way out. Those are two very different examples of a suicide and I'm wondering how you would judge either one or both of them.
Listen you can repent of any other sin , but how in the world are you going to repent of suicide , after the fact when you are dead and gone.By the way GOD made this world system without any harassment , violences,deception,heart break or Sin and who fault is it that's it messed up and people are goping to "Hell " is it's Gods fault or is it's Mankind.
The main thing is we need to seek the Lord first no matter how trying and tragic our lives are, God is the only way. A person who has the Lord in hie life does not think along the lines of suicide
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I believe from a personal level that if you have accepted the one and only Lord Jesus Christ as your savior and you commit suicide , you are with Him .If You did not accept, even on your death bed, you are in hell. All this is stated clearly in the Bible. My mother committed suicide and she was a Christian. She just had a chemical inbalance that led to Depression. A person usually just wants the pain to stop, not die. It also says in the Bible, that the day you were born and the day that you die is already picked out. So, my mother would of died the day she did, one way or another. Suicide does leave many heartbroken and lost. I know. It also leaves many thinking, "She would never of done that, I know her". My mom's sisters said it. I was very very close to my mother, lived 3 miles from her, talked to her 3 times a day. Saw her almost every day., And I never knew she was suicidal. But she did. And I miss her still today. But I know we will meet again when the Lord brings us all home.
That atheist comedian you referred to was known to be one of the kindest, gentlest people around, a great father and a devoted husband...and if there is a Heaven, as you believe, I'm sure he is there right now keeping all the saints and angels in stitches....and thinking about several more words he cannot say on TV or in Heaven.
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The thing about suicide is that you can't repent of it...
Listen you can repent of any other sin , but how in the world are you going to repent of suicide , after the fact when you are dead and gone.By the way GOD made this world system without any harassment , violences,deception,heart break or Sin and who fault is it that's it messed up and people are goping to "Hell " is it's Gods fault or is it's Mankind.