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Old 11-19-2008, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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aquila - you need to slow down as I can't post when you want me to. There are other things I need to do besides post on CD

Also, my mother never wore pants.....yet it has nothing to do with MY SALVATION.

BTW the NT also taught that marriage is btwn a man and a woman.

If two people aren't married then they are committing fornication/adultery.

Homosexuality or not...it's still sex outside of marriage.
Not in Massachusetts and Connecticut. And those married in CA so far. Of course, I attend church, have been in a committed, monogamous relationship with my partner for 13 years, and consider myself married. So does our church, so we're OK.

So what I'm gathering is that it's your opinion that it's always "fornication" for the gays. Nothing more than an opinion.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:16 AM
 
Location: PA
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So pick one:

The King James Version
King James 2000 Version
Updated King James Version
King James Version Easy Reading
Revised Standard Version
Living Bible
Good News Bible
New International Version
Young' Literal Translation
Quaker Bible
Douay Bible
Recovery Version
World English Bible
Modern American Standard Version
New Living Translation
New International Version Inclusive Language Edition
New English Bible
Catholic Public Domain Version
Westminster Bible
Christian Community Bible
Confraternity Bible
Knox's Translation of the Vulgate
Eastern Orthodox Bible
New World Translation
Amplified Bible
The Clear Word Bible
Third Millennium Bible
Anointed Standard Version


And I could go on and on and on...

Not to mention Bibles in Farsi, Hindi, Malay, Swahili, German, Mandarin, Finnish, and every other language spoken.
These are translations of the bible. It is the goal of the translator to reproduce the text to be understood by the reader as closely as posible. So, the word of God isn't changing just how it is presented to the reader. If I wrote my words in brail would it make them any less my word? No.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Tsk and double-tsk. Jeans!! My jeans at least have sparkly feminine thingies on them, so you KNOW I'm a lady.
I had an alcoholic drink once...and er...admired somebody else's husband.
Oh s**t. I'll see you in hell sister!
If the Bible is fact, I think Hell will be filled with all the cool people... LOL.

Kinda off-topic, but did you guys see the South Park episode where they found out the "true religion?" Somebody (I forget who) asked Saint Peter "so which religion was the right one?" and he replies "Mormon. Yes, Mormon is the correct answer."
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Homosexuality or not...it's still sex outside of marriage.
What about a couple that isn't sexually active? Or do you think everyone sleeps with their partners? I was just talking to someone the other day who was in a committed CELIBATE same-sex relationship for like 15 years... so were they committing a sin??
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:08 PM
 
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eating pork was not punishable by death
Oh, but you could be stoned to death for disobeying your parents, if I remember correctly... have you ever been rude to your parents? And yes, teenage years count!
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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These are translations of the bible. It is the goal of the translator to reproduce the text to be understood by the reader as closely as posible. So, the word of God isn't changing just how it is presented to the reader. If I wrote my words in brail would it make them any less my word? No.
Those weren't just translations he (she?) listed - they were different interpretations, some of which are practically un-related. And what about the unique religious texts... Torah, Q'uran, and so forth... do you consider those valid?
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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There are many churches that follow their own beliefs that are contrary to the Bible.

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Not in Massachusetts and Connecticut. And those married in CA so far. Of course, I attend church, have been in a committed, monogamous relationship with my partner for 13 years, and consider myself married. So does our church, so we're OK.

So what I'm gathering is that it's your opinion that it's always "fornication" for the gays. Nothing more than an opinion.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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There are many churches that follow their own beliefs that are contrary to the Bible.
Stricly your opinion - nothing more. My church thinks your church follows beliefs contrary to the Bible. The only solution is to live and let live - and for your side to stop legislating your personal morality.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:24 PM
 
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aquila - you need to slow down as I can't post when you want me to. There are other things I need to do besides post on CD
Sorry. I presumed you were still online when we were posting back and forth.

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Also, my mother never wore pants.....yet it has nothing to do with MY SALVATION.
Fine, do you know ANY woman who wears jeans and button up shirts? If so, have you preached to them about the abominable thing they are doing?

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BTW the NT also taught that marriage is btwn a man and a woman.
And....? What does that have to do with this discussion? We're not talking about the NT now, are we? We're discussing that verse in Deuteronomy which clearly states it is an abomination for a woman to wear men's clothes and vice versa. Yet it's funny how Christians today will hurl the OT at us and state that homosexuality is an abomination. The church picks and chooses the verses to hurl around when it suits them the most. If someone else points out a verse against one of the practices of MANY believers (ie. wearing clothes meant for the opposite sex), they suddenly dismiss that verse as "no longer relevant".

The point I'm making here is that the church doesn't have a leg to stand on with respect to breaking out the OT and using its laws against homosexuals. In so doing, you're only pointing 3 of your fingers right back at yourself. So from here on out, if the church wants to use the Bible to bash gays and lesbians, it needs to stick with using NT verses only.....and those are quite a bit more vague.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:25 PM
 
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eating pork was not punishable by death
So? It was an abomination. Do you eat pork? Do you know anyone who does? If so, do you preach to yourself and them about the abominable act that is being committed?
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