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Old 05-17-2007, 12:03 PM
 
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Any gnostics in the house?

Or anyone who has studied gnosticism?

I thought of this based on another post which talked about "gods," plural being mentioned in the Bible.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:09 PM
 
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I had to look it up I thought you meant agnostic
but here is the definition I came up with in case you aren't sure if it is you

A one-sentence description of Gnosticism: a religion that differentiates the evil god of this world (who is identified with the god of the Old Testament) from a higher more abstract God revealed by Jesus Christ, a religion that regards this world as the creation of a series of evil archons/powers who wish to keep the human soul trapped in an evil physical body, a religion that preaches a hidden wisdom or knowledge only to a select group as necessary for salvation or escape from this world.
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:43 PM
 
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Thanks, dncn! I had actually heard the idea was that the God of the Bible was imperfect, not evil. Though I guess evil could have the definition of imperfect depending upon how you look at it.

But anyway, the idea is that this God is the product of other gods (or actually...of one particular goddess) but that he was born imperfect in some way and that's why the world he created was imperfect. Gnostics do believe in Jesus as cited in dncn's post...they believe, however, that Jesus was talking about the "bigger" god, or ultimate god, rather than the Biblical god. The idea is, that's why Jesus changed some OT rules and challenged dogma based on the OT.

So I guess there are no gnostics here. I was just curious what everyone thought of this idea. I might start another thread on Celtic Christianity because I've been wondering about that too.
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Maine
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So I guess there are no gnostics here. I was just curious what everyone thought of this idea.
Gnosticism is, in the words of Mony Python, "very silly." Even if I weren't a Christian, I wouldn't buy into gnosticism. Doesn't make any sense logically.


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I might start another thread on Celtic Christianity because I've been wondering about that too.
Excellent. What do you mean exactly by "Celtic Christianity"?
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:58 PM
 
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Thanks, dncn! I had actually heard the idea was that the God of the Bible was imperfect, not evil. Though I guess evil could have the definition of imperfect depending upon how you look at it.

But anyway, the idea is that this God is the product of other gods (or actually...of one particular goddess) but that he was born imperfect in some way and that's why the world he created was imperfect. Gnostics do believe in Jesus as cited in dncn's post...they believe, however, that Jesus was talking about the "bigger" god, or ultimate god, rather than the Biblical god. The idea is, that's why Jesus changed some OT rules and challenged dogma based on the OT.

So I guess there are no gnostics here. I was just curious what everyone thought of this idea. I might start another thread on Celtic Christianity because I've been wondering about that too.
that isnt my take on it I didnt know what it was so I googled it and then cut and pasted what it said
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:47 PM
 
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Gnosticism is, in the words of Mony Python, "very silly." Even if I weren't a Christian, I wouldn't buy into gnosticism. Doesn't make any sense logically.

Excellent. What do you mean exactly by "Celtic Christianity"?
Is it this? http://celticchristianity.org/index.html
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