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Old 10-24-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Except he can't seem to tell the difference between a sexual ACT and sexual orientation.
I know.
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Goldie says he's in the porn business.

That, of course, makes him an expert on sex, relationships, gender...you know, the whole human condition.
Goldies a man? And were talking to a porn star? Was he in gay porn or straight porn? Or is there really a difference?
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Goldie says he's in the porn business.

That, of course, makes him an expert on sex, relationships, gender...you know, the whole human condition.
To save time for the curious as to the reference about my porn-biz involvement, and how it has informed me on this subject: There was a thread along the same lines by TroutDude about a year and a half ago. Start @ post 135 and read to the end...this has been hashed out before...by most of the same suspects. We all still hold our positions:When did you choose to be heterosexual?
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Except he can't seem to tell the difference between a sexual ACT and sexual orientation.
I understand just fine...it is you that isn't hip to the point I'm making.

To help clear things up, answer these two questions.
How much sex (the "act") of any type has occurred void of a "relationship"?
How many "relationships" have occurred void of any type of sex (the "act")?

Ponder your answers and then you will understand how I am relating "the act" and "orientation". "Orientation" will determine the gender(s) one will (or won't) "act" with...whether there is a "relationship" between them or not.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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To save time for the curious as to the reference about my porn-biz involvement, and how it has informed me on this subject: There was a thread along the same lines by TroutDude about a year and a half ago. Start @ post 135 and read to the end...this has been hashed out before...by most of the same suspects. We all still hold our positions:When did you choose to be heterosexual?
To be fair to GldRule it has to be noted that there is NO unambiguous direct evidence of a genetic basis for non-heterosexual orientation or behavior. Clearly there is always SOME genetic component to all human functioning. But in the sexual arena the existence of a varied panoply of sexuality argues against any purely innate basis. The extant acronyms illustrate this point: LGBTTQQIAAP (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Transsexual, *****, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Ally, Pansexual). But this is a moot issue because there exists Gestalt perceptions that can be learned without conscious involvement and become fixed and unchangeable . . . acting exactly like an innate characteristic. So it is undeniable that sexual orientation can be as fixed as if it was innate without involving any conscious choice on the part of the individual affected.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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For what it's worth, I stand by my original post. When I started this thread so long ago I would not have imagined the world we live in changing as much as it has. I am extremely thankful God, in His mercy helped me get out of that life. It was difficult, very difficult, but I made it and on the other side.

I think people who disagree with my worldview don't understand that this is a spiritual battle. Scoff if you will because I know many will but God can bring us out of anything, IF it's something we are willing to come out of.
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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For what it's worth, I stand by my original post. When I started this thread so long ago I would not have imagined the world we live in changing as much as it has. I am extremely thankful God, in His mercy helped me get out of that life. It was difficult, very difficult, but I made it and on the other side.

I think people who disagree with my worldview don't understand that this is a spiritual battle. Scoff if you will because I know many will but God can bring us out of anything, IF it's something we are willing to come out of.
How did you do it?
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:46 PM
 
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Read it again...this was addressed: "Relationships between potentially conflicting biological imperatives, such as self-preservation and reproduction are similarly resolved in an extraordinary variety of fashions by different organisms, from those who sacrifice themselves to procreate or increase the survival chances of their offspring to those who will abandon their descendants to their own luck..."

All this has been researched and proved for quite some time.
OTOH...as I have said many times before...NOTHING is infallible, so.....

Doesn't matter any way as respects LGBTQ acceptance. Live and let live...and love each other as you treat others the way you'd want to be treated. Any way else is not cool and messes the world up.
Im not sure about the biological imperatives and all that...I get the point, I just think that part is mostly self explanatory/common sense...but youre right that sexuality is a choice...all sexuality, fetishes included...and irrespective of religion...I just find it strange that even if you agree to disagree on that point, people still go apesh*t about you having that outlook...even when you clearly support the rights of gays to live their lives as they choose....its like, who cares whether you think its a choice or not, or if you agree with their every opinion on the issue, if you just want them to be happy with their lives and support their right to live as they choose?
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:56 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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For what it's worth, I stand by my original post. When I started this thread so long ago I would not have imagined the world we live in changing as much as it has. I am extremely thankful God, in His mercy helped me get out of that life. It was difficult, very difficult, but I made it and on the other side.

I think people who disagree with my worldview don't understand that this is a spiritual battle. Scoff if you will because I know many will but God can bring us out of anything, IF it's something we are willing to come out of.
Depends if one even considers that a god exists, never mind that it gives a flying flick about what we little inconsequential individuals in the tiny speck of a galaxy that is but a piece of fly poop in the universe. Many here just could not care about such a god if he does. We ain't that important, and certainly that god isn't.
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Old 10-25-2014, 12:55 AM
 
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Scoff if you will
I do.
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