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Old 05-11-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You are totally twisting the entire subject so as to obfuscate the facts of the secrets of darkness in Masonry and Mormonism.
Oh, yeah man... secrets of darkness. Spooky, evil darkness. Sinister, wicked darkness. Let's hear it for the darkness!!!!

Yeshuasavedme, you are such a wonderfully entertaining addition to this forum. Please don't ever leave.

 
Old 05-11-2010, 11:04 PM
 
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Oh, yeah man... secrets of darkness. Spooky, evil darkness. Sinister, wicked darkness. Let's hear it for the darkness!!!!

Yeshuasavedme, you are such a wonderfully entertaining addition to this forum. Please don't ever leave.
What has that to do with the OP?
 
Old 05-11-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: So California
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^^Because you are just as entertaining and inaccurate as the video!!!
 
Old 05-12-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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^^Because you are just as entertaining and inaccurate as the video!!!
So what is inaccurate in the video?
If a Mormon is uninformed about what Mormonism has taught from its highest and original founders, does that make what the original founders taught, which are true original teachings from the founders of the Mormon Church, as Hueff points out, to be a lie?
Is it a lie that they taught it, or is it a lie that a particular Mormon knows the truth about what they taught? I think it was made clear that Mormons are uninformed about what the founders and the leaders of Mormonism after them, taught. That does not make it inaccurate that it was taught by the founders, and believed today by many Mormons.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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So what is inaccurate in the video?
Lots of stuff, which I have discussed in depth in this thread. Finally, I realized that, with the exception of the person who posted the video (who split as soon as I started addressing the lies it contained), everyone else recognized it as just another hateful piece of propoganda that was good for a laugh but little else. At that point, I stopped posting corrections. I guess most people on this forum are not as gullible as the author of the OP expected them to be. And then you, dearest yeshuasavedme, happened to stop by.

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Old 05-12-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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Lots of stuff, which I have discussed in depth in this thread. Finally, I realized that, with the exception of the person who posted the video (who split as soon as I started addressing the lies it contained), everyone else recognized it as just another hateful piece of propoganda that was good for a laugh but little else. At that point, I stopped posting corrections. I guess most people on this forum are not as gullible as the author of the OP expected them to be. And then you, dearest yeshuasavedme, happened to stop by.
And don't forget Hueff, the ex-Mormon, who posted an excellent reply here:http://www.city-data.com/forum/14104998-post56.html
and
http://www.city-data.com/forum/14099328-post51.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/14100142-post52.html

So lets deal with them simply and one at a time.
Does Morminism teach now, or has it ever taught, and has it ever refuted it, if it did, that Mormons will stand at the final judgement seat before Joseph Smith, the Mormon Jesus, and the Mormon Elohym?
Please do not just say that you do not believe it and it does not matter, anyway, but, then, but please answer the question: does Mormonism teach that Joseph Smith will be the judge of Mormons, for their worthiness before entry into Mormon heaven?
 
Old 05-12-2010, 06:57 PM
 
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So lets deal with them simply and one at a time.
No, let's not. I don't even try to have conversations with you, ysm. I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in explaining my beliefs to you because you wouldn't believe anything I said anyway, and we both know that. Furthermore, nobody really listens to anything you have to say, so I'm not even worried about damage control. Have a nice day, sweetheart.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: pensacola,florida
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So what is inaccurate in the video?
If a Mormon is uninformed about what Mormonism has taught from its highest and original founders, does that make what the original founders taught, which are true original teachings from the founders of the Mormon Church, as Hueff points out, to be a lie?
Is it a lie that they taught it, or is it a lie that a particular Mormon knows the truth about what they taught? I think it was made clear that Mormons are uninformed about what the founders and the leaders of Mormonism after them, taught. That does not make it inaccurate that it was taught by the founders, and believed today by many Mormons.
To 'lie' requires an intentional action designed to decieve.If you believe what you are saying to be 'true' then it is not a 'lie',even if it is incorrect.You have made dozens of posts on this forum that I have found somewhat ridiculous....but since I feel that you believe them I wouldn't call them lies....I merely think you are wrong.....yet often highly entertaining

I have already told you,as have others,multiple times that mormons don't believe that our leaders are infallible....they can be wrong,just like everyone else on the earth can be wrong,without being a liar,.......well except for you who can never be wrong apparently.

I was surprised it took you so long to join in over here since you are generally one of the first ones to join into the mormon bashing posts....this one seems about done so I think you joined the party too late to get much mileage out of this one.I hope you enjoyed the video however,it was silly,but much to the disapointment of the op this mormon doesnt care if people watch it.....'fundie propaganda hack jobs 'dont bother me.......although I fail too understand if their version of 'truth' is so great why they dont just devote their time to promoting what they 'do' believe instead of devoting so much time to attacking and distorting the beliefs of others.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: So California
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So what is inaccurate in the video?
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I will simply say, that nearly everything in the video is inaccurate, stretched, twisted or flat out incorrect. The intent of the video is obvious. If they had such compelling evidence, then they would not have had to resort to lies or twisted half truths, like all of your other "sources".

I have seen first hand how the fundies like you are "taught" about Mormonism and how to witness to Mormons. I have witnessed the teachings in fundy theological Seminaries, and the out and out lies taught, but then again they did the same thing versus virtually every other faith and religion, not to mention the massive infighting and internal power plays.
 
Old 05-12-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I have seen first hand how the fundies like you are "taught" about Mormonism and how to witness to Mormons.
I don't think the fundies will claim her either, slo.
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