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Strike a chord? I see you've chosen to ignore every other point.
That was like four days ago.
Anyway yes I remember being young and/or immature too. The kind of immaturity that makes one assume that if people quit discussing with you it's because you "won the conversation." In reality I chose to ignore most of your post because it just wasn't that interesting and I was tired of an endless conversation to nowhere. I picked a phrase that seemed to allow for a "I'm done with this" moment.
I mean I'm not really obligated to come here at all you know. I think in some ways doing so must mean I'm a bit masochistic or stupid. Although probably it's just because I'm a touch OCD.
Originally Posted by Thomas R. And I've tired of your ignorance masquerading as reason or intelligence. So consider the discussion between us closed.
Strike a chord? I see you've chosen to ignore every other point.
Thomas . . . this guy is deliberately obtuse . . . he pretends ignorance to maintain his indefensible positions in support of his preferred worldview. There is not much that reason or logic can do with someone like that. He is into word games, period.
Without my physical body I would not exist. My brain (part of my body; me) can be quantified.
Your body is not contemplating the material I present and analyzing it and formulating responses . . . YOU are (although given your responses there is some question about just how much of that is actually occurring).
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How are you suppose to prove a god, with "evidence", that can not be quantified, thus tested?
The issue is how are YOU supposed to prove YOUR claim that there is a distinction between the universe and God? I see none.
Thomas . . . this guy is deliberately obtuse . . . he pretends ignorance to maintain his indefensible positions in support of his preferred worldview. There is not much that reason or logic can do with someone like that. He is into word games, period.
You're probably right, I was just surprised he'd respond to that like four days later when we had all clearly moved on to other things.
You're probably right, I was just surprised he'd respond to that like four days later when we had all clearly moved on to other things.
If I recall, the entire spit was about how Adam Carolla isn't a viable authority on the existence of God because he doesn't have the knowledge of the physical laws of the universe like a physicist has.
And considering that the vast majority of natural scientists are atheists I suspect has little impact on your faith despite having authority on the existence of God according to your complaints of Adam Carolla.
Why Asimov, a science-fiction writer, was not challenged is beyond me. Go after the guy who has the balls to point out that people are lying to themselves instead.
But let us move on as you suggest, Thomas. Any insightful remarks about consciousness that are not untenable dualist positions?
Your body is not contemplating the material I present and analyzing it and formulating responses . . . YOU are (although given your responses there is some question about just how much of that is actually occurring).The issue is how are YOU supposed to prove YOUR claim that there is a distinction between the universe and God? I see none.
Still refusing to define what you mean by "the universe", and "god".
I am my body. If my body is injured, I am injured.
No one who denies dualism has ANY insights whatsoever to offer any one.
Because you say so?
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Materialism refutes its own premises, period.
How?
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