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Old 06-13-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Just say you were living with a family member or friend and have someone you know vouch for you with a letter.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I'm sure, after three years, she found a solution to her problem.

And lying to your landlord about references is not a good idea.
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Old 06-13-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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Over here it is 2 per room so over here it would be a 3 bedroom for 5 people.
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:48 AM
 
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The standard here is 2 per bedroom plus 1... so a two bedroom home would suffice for a family of 5.

You always have the option of finding a 3 bedroom for the price range of a 2 bedroom certificate... it does happen.

The idea is to provide basic housing for as many qualified families as possible... higher occupancy means more families are helped.

childless adults, not so much help.

looks like the idea is to reward irresponsible parenting; pop out kid you cannot afford = get housing help.
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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It really is all about the children... much of what is offered is based on this simple premise.

Expanding on that it is about dependants.
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Old 06-14-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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It really is all about the children... much of what is offered is based on this simple premise.

Expanding on that it is about dependants.

And how is that working out with the gangbangers and hood rats running loose?

p.s. this year the 'bangers are shooting up Portland in record numbers - already set the yearly record in under six months.
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:02 PM
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Section 8 should be abolished in favor of spartan low income housing with strictly enforced rules about drugs etc. The goal should be to provide poor people with a safe place to live, not to provide luxuries or motivation to vandalize. The whole idea of dispersing poor people into other neighborhoods via section 8 is a huge failure, and people need to come clean about that failure, be willing to face it and fix it. Gangs should be prosecuted more, and there should be more laws against gang association, to prosecute members without evidence of other crimes. There should also be more buildings for senior and disabled people, with even stricter rules against drugs and gang members, because seniors and disabled people need even more protection from gang violence. There should be millions of security guards guarding public housing against all kinds of violent crimes, drug crimes, etc.

The main reason we have so much violent crime, and especially why poor neighborhoods have so much violent crime, is because we, as a society, tolerate that violent crime. Individually we're all geniuses, but collectively we're idiots.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:05 AM
 
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Spartan low income housing has been deemed a failure and Section 8 the answer....

At least this is how it is sold here.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:40 AM
 
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Spartan low income housing has been deemed a failure and Section 8 the answer....

At least this is how it is sold here.

How's that working out at the neighborhood level?
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:32 AM
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Spartan low income housing has been deemed a failure and Section 8 the answer....

At least this is how it is sold here.
Was deemed a failure by whom based on what? Did we ever even have spartan housing with competent security and strict rules?
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:16 AM
 
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Spartan low income housing has been deemed a failure and Section 8 the answer....

At least this is how it is sold here.
When I lived in HUD apartment potential employers knew where the apartments were and people in the apartments would comment how they weren't even getting job interviews. One of my former neighbors thought maybe it was because the employers didn't want to hire someone from the area, so he faked an address in a more affluent neighborhood on the applications. He finally started getting interviews and landed a job so he could get out of the apartments.

Area wasn't safe. Lots of drugs, shootings, etc. My place was broke into. He wanted to get his family to a safer place and did. I did what he did and finally got a job after applying for years. It was all same info on the applications except for the address. I passed the tip along to others I knew job hunting and don't know what they did with it. Once I escaped there I didn't go back.

About the only thing I like about the vouchers versus HUD is that employers cannot just figure out your situation and discriminate against you over it. I never did vouchers though, but a friend did and it was a real headache going through the red tape. That was how she escaped the apartments.

HUD is also quick to evict. One of my former neighbors had a restraining order against her husband. He broke the restraining order and busted out the windows and stuff trying to get to her. Wasn't her fault, but she was still evicted over it. She had done all she could to keep him away, but a restraining order is just a piece of paper. If someone wants to ignore one they will. He didn't even live there. I don't know whatever happened to her. Never saw her again.
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