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Old 08-14-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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I moved into an apartment about a year and a half ago, accepted apartment completely as is, previous tenants furniture and toothbrush still here type of as is. Absolutely no cleaning was done. Turns out he was a party person and where a picture was hanging was the hole of what looks like a butt in the drywall. There's a hole in the bathroom door. The carpet has multiple cigarette stains and when I lay down on it I can smell urine of some sort. There's even what looks like an explosion of some sort in our toddlers room like a bottlerocket or something else small like that on the ceiling. Other problems too but they're even more irrelevant.

Also, the previous tenant wasn't a complete stranger, in case any questions arise. We NEEDED an apartment asap and he needed to move ASAP and the small landlord was overjoyed that the tenant basically advertised, no turnover on the landlords part.

Current dilemma. We have a rabbit now (landlord said it was cool) and everything was great and fantastic until he began puberty. Poor little guy is confined to a cage or held in our arms until he reaches the neutered age to get things snipped. Before we completely stopped taking him out, he ripped out some carpet.

With everything else wrong with the carpet (even the previous tenant tore out a decent chunk) because we were the last residents, if the landlord decides to replace the carpet after we leave, do we have to pay for the depreciated value of the carpet for the WHOLE apartment even the messes we didn't do or just the livingroom or what? Similar question, with accepting it as is, did we accept responsibility of other problems stated above? I don't mind kissing my security deposit goodbye for the carpet problems WE caused, but I don't want to have to pay absurdly extra for what we didn't do. That's probably why the previous tenant was like SEE YA! But we were desperate and didn't have another option at the time (no not eviction or anything of the like, personal/moving/new job dilemma)

Ps- If the refrigerator dies in an apartment, is it the tenant's responsibility or the landlord's?
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Did you take photos of everything at move-in and complete a check-in list documenting everything that was wrong/damaged? You should have to protect yourself.

Normally, if appliances came with the apartment and it was advertised as such then the LL should replace it without charge as long as you aren't the one that caused damaged to require the replacement. What does your lease state regarding appliances?
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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You set yourself to lose your deposit. I guess you can chalk it up to the cost of expediency for possession. Unless condition was well documented you will be on the hook for damages, or a costly court battle. If the refrigerator is included then yes landlord is responsible if it is normal wear and tear, damage is another matter and LL wouldn't be.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:16 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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A lot depends upon whether the previous tenant's lease was officially terminated and you received a new lease or whether you are subletting. If you are subletting, you are on the hook for all of the damage.

If the landlord wrote you a brand new lease and documented pre-existing damage, you should only be paying for the damage you do. I'd certainly charge you a prorated amount for the carpet damage your loose rabbit did. Did the landlord understand that the rabbit is not a caged pet?

I hope you took good move-in photos, otherwise, how are you going to prove that the apartment was already damaged when you moved in.
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Old 08-15-2016, 04:34 AM
 
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Just wanted to add: neutering the rabbit will not curb the chewing. Any damage the rabbit causes, you will pay for.


I hope you took lots of video and photos before you took possession of the unit because at this point, you're going to have a heck of a time proving it wasn't you.


Why are you still living with holes in the walls, crap on the walls and dirty urine soaked carpet?
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Old 08-15-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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About the refrigerator, I called the landlord because it's been making a funny noise, no damage involved. She looked at it and says it's okay, but I'm not too sure because the noise is getting worse.

It was a brand new lease, not a sub lease. The landlord knew about most of the things, she pointed some out, but the hole in the wall i don't think she knew about.

Yes, i take full responsibility for everything my family did, but I know the carpet is at least 5 years old because turns out we knew the previous PREVIOUS tenant and he said the cigarette stains were there too. Really small town. The reason we are still here is because believe it or not, this is one of the better apartments around here.

But, no pics or videos. In the rush of things we never thought to do so, we were just so glad we found a place. The landlord seems really nice so i don't think she'll charge us for EVERYTHING, but I DO want her to use the security deposit to fix things for the next tenant, but I'm worried that if she does decide to replace everything after us we'd have to provide MORE money. I might be worried over nothing though, she did an inspection with us maybe 5 months back and she was telling us about how one of her other apartments didn't even have a toilet seat and I was like, ohhh.... Eww.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Turns out he was a party person and where a picture was hanging was the hole of what looks like a butt in the drywall.
What does this mean?
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Old 08-17-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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I moved into an apartment about a year and a half ago, accepted apartment completely as is, previous tenants furniture and toothbrush still here type of as is. Absolutely no cleaning was done. Turns out he was a party person and where a picture was hanging was the hole of what looks like a butt in the drywall. There's a hole in the bathroom door. The carpet has multiple cigarette stains and when I lay down on it I can smell urine of some sort. There's even what looks like an explosion of some sort in our toddlers room like a bottlerocket or something else small like that on the ceiling. Other problems too but they're even more irrelevant.


First of all stop laying on urine soaked carpet


Also, the previous tenant wasn't a complete stranger, in case any questions arise. We NEEDED an apartment asap and he needed to move ASAP and the small landlord was overjoyed that the tenant basically advertised, no turnover on the landlords part.

Current dilemma. We have a rabbit now (landlord said it was cool) and everything was great and fantastic until he began puberty. Poor little guy is confined to a cage or held in our arms until he reaches the neutered age to get things snipped. Before we completely stopped taking him out, he ripped out some carpet.

With everything else wrong with the carpet (even the previous tenant tore out a decent chunk) because we were the last residents, if the landlord decides to replace the carpet after we leave, do we have to pay for the depreciated value of the carpet for the WHOLE apartment even the messes we didn't do or just the livingroom or what? Similar question, with accepting it as is, did we accept responsibility of other problems stated above? I don't mind kissing my security deposit goodbye for the carpet problems WE caused, but I don't want to have to pay absurdly extra for what we didn't do. That's probably why the previous tenant was like SEE YA! But we were desperate and didn't have another option at the time (no not eviction or anything of the like, personal/moving/new job dilemma)

If the place is that f'ed up I wouldn't think the LL would charge you anything but given the condition I guarantee the LL will use your deposit to fix up the joint.

Ps- If the refrigerator dies in an apartment, is it the tenant's responsibility or the landlord's?
Bold.

The fridge should be the LL responsibility if it's their fridge
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Old 08-17-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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Put in maintenance requests to repair the pre-existing damage while you are still a tenant.
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Old 08-17-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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What does this mean?
There's a butt-shaped hole in the drywall that was hidden behind a poster Shawshank Redemption style.
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