Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Real Estate > Renting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-23-2016, 04:19 PM
 
1,488 posts, read 1,965,780 times
Reputation: 3249

Advertisements

So one of my renters let his cat pee all over laminate wood floors and didn't clean it for days. Needless to say, the urine has soaked into the wood to a point where the only way to get rid the smell is total replacement. And yes total replacement is necessary because the stench is so overpowering that its hard to stay in the condo for more then 2 minutes. I don't know how my renter can stand it. I guess he is used to the smell. I'm estimating the replacement to cost anywhere from $1600-2400. My question is in case he refuses to pay how do I prove the "damage by smell" in court?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-23-2016, 04:29 PM
 
16,376 posts, read 22,477,771 times
Reputation: 14398
When I had to replace carpet due to the smell of cat pee, I took a swatch and placed it in a plastic bad and sealed it. I kept it in case I needed to go to court because the tenant was unhappy about having to pay for prorated portion of new carpet, and threatened to sue. The tenant didn't sue so I never needed to use the swatch of carpet. I kept it for a year or so. It still smelled like cat pee after all that time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 04:31 PM
 
1,624 posts, read 4,053,918 times
Reputation: 2322
Would it show under black light? Is it possible to video or photograph black light evidence? Another way may be having an affidavit from the flooring company or a cleaning company declaring the floor a loss.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
49,932 posts, read 59,914,733 times
Reputation: 98359
Laminate can be tricky because of the joints where urine can seep in. You will need to check baseboards and any floor vents also.

You can keep a sample of the floor, but I would take a video of myself removing it from the installed floor so they don't think I put a piece of laminate in a bag and poured pee on it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
6,234 posts, read 8,438,954 times
Reputation: 13809
Enzyme cleaning should take care of the odor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
3,365 posts, read 5,235,146 times
Reputation: 4205
That's an expensive laminate if your corner is costing that much. You can piece out laminate flooring easily even when glued down. Find a good contractor to do the work.

As for proof pictures. Pee will stain and the particle board will swell and warp. Also the flooring contractor or cleaning company can note the smell on their invoices.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 05:41 PM
 
1,488 posts, read 1,965,780 times
Reputation: 3249
Quote:
Originally Posted by froglipz View Post
Enzyme cleaning should take care of the odor.
I will look into that. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I just thought of something else that may help. Let me know your opinion on this. The renter of this property is the original owner. I bought the property from him and he immediately started renting from me. When I bought the property I had an inspection done. Obviously if there was such a strong stench in the property at the time of purchase, it would have been noted in the inspection.

Since nothing regarding a strong odor was noted on the inspection it can be assumed that the source of the smell was caused sometime after the inspection. The only person who has ever rented this property is the former owner (with the cat noted on his lease). That should prove that the damage to flooring could have only been caused by him. Meaning once he leaves the property I can inspect it with someone from the HOA who can sign a statement regarding the urine smell in the floor. Do you guys think this in combination with the suggestion of having the floor company attest to the smell and saving a sample of the floor (videotaped) will be enough to have a judge easily rule in my favor?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ Manager View Post
That's an expensive laminate if your corner is costing that much. You can piece out laminate flooring easily even when glued down. Find a good contractor to do the work.

As for proof pictures. Pee will stain and the particle board will swell and warp. Also the flooring contractor or cleaning company can note the smell on their invoices.
I'm just assuming the worst case scenario of having to replace the entire living room/kitchen laminate. The laminate floor itself is over 10 years old. So I'm not sure if a contractor can find an equivalent replacement that will look aesthetically pleasing if only part of the floor is replaced. Therefore, the estimate I noted above was for the whole floor (approx. 600 sq ft.) If I can get away with replacing only part of the floor I will be happy to do so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
49,932 posts, read 59,914,733 times
Reputation: 98359
If it goes as far as court, the fact that the floor is that old could work against you, as it could be claimed that the floor is near the end of its useful life.

At least, I have heard of judgments rendered significantly lower than replacement cost because of that factor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 08:33 PM
 
9,875 posts, read 14,118,571 times
Reputation: 21777
Quote:
Originally Posted by griffon652 View Post
Obviously if there was such a strong stench in the property at the time of purchase, it would have been noted in the inspection.
Are you saying you never visited the property or attended the inspection? Why not?


A home inspection likely would not mention pet odor at all. They are there to confirm the house is structurally sound and all parts are working correctly. They are not there to make comments on anything aesthetic, and a pet smell would classify as this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-23-2016, 09:45 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
13,926 posts, read 39,282,391 times
Reputation: 10257
When they install my Flooring last year I was Told Life was 10 years! Yours is Past that, So you looking at replacing it on your Dime...cost of doing business. Now my Carpets have a 5 yr life span.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Real Estate > Renting
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top