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Old 07-05-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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I thought this thread was about bad decisions, like quitting a great job at age 25 to move out West and be a waitress (who could I be thinking of) or other life-type decisions, not health!
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Old 07-05-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: in the miseries
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Workin' on it. But 83 max. Two more and I run a 50% chance of not knowing why, or caring!
Start the pills immediately! If you are talking about dementia.
Supposed to help a lot more if taken at onset.
We need a Curmudgeon.
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Old 07-05-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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I thought this thread was about bad decisions, like quitting a great job at age 25 to move out West and be a waitress (who could I be thinking of) or other life-type decisions, not health!
It is about health, too.
Especially bad decisions early. Like drinking, smoking, drugs, etc that
Affect the quality of your life now.
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Old 07-05-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: zippidy doo dah
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I thought this thread was about bad decisions, like quitting a great job at age 25 to move out West and be a waitress (who could I be thinking of) or other life-type decisions, not health!
my thoughts as well - wasn't sure if I should comment on the midlife crisis thread or just deal with the whole kit and caboodle on this one -
on second thought, the move out West and being a waitress sounds like a good idea............

working on my family tree I have discovered that none of it is my fault
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Old 07-05-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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It does seem that financially, causal relationship between good habits and good outcome is stronger than in matters of health!

Saving money early in life, making reasonable investments, managing risk, sticking to a plan… well, there are no outright guarantees, but few people achieved substantial wealth by constantly being in debt, making impulse purchases, chasing after investment-fads and slipping into defeatist rejection of the market.

On the other hand, it appears that many people abused their bodies and nevertheless managed to reach a ripe age without deleterious consequences, while so many others made wise decisions and seemingly reaped no reward.

It's ironic that so much of our financial "health" is dependent on factors beyond our control, such as economic policy, geopolitical risk, interest rates, corporate malfeasance and so forth… yet the causal relationship between good habits and good outcome remains so strong; our bodies, meanwhile, are in literal sense "ours"… yet so often they surprise us, negatively or positively.
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Old 07-05-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I have had four or five colonoscopies, all without any sedation whatsoever - no IV was even started. They are not painful. Routine sedation for colonoscopies is a waste of time, unless one is a female who has had children. Some offices that do colonoscopies like to sedate everybody just in case you are the exception (other than women who have had children, for whom routine sedation is justified) who will experience unusual discomfort. Not having sedation allows one to drive oneself home, which is a great convenience. It also allows one to watch the monitor along with the gastroenterologist, which is very interesting.
Damn! You can give childbirth without drugs as well to help ease the pain, but what is the point???!?!?!?!

Mr Versed is YOUR FRIEND when undergoing painful medical procedures....NOTHING wrong with not suffering thru something painful. No extra credit, no different lab results.
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: East TN
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^^^^^^Ditto
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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Old quote, I don't know the author......

'Some people treat their body like a temple. I treat mine like a pool hall.'


Stepdad never smoked, was a health freak and never drank much, BAM died unexpectedly after minor surgery, 75.

Paternal grandma smoked (quit in her 60s) and had her few ryes every night, never one for excersize, was a tad overweight, lived to 99, though the last five years were not a good quality of life.

IDK, what ever His/Her plan is, I'm on board.
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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I thought this thread was about bad decisions, like quitting a great job at age 25 to move out West and be a waitress (who could I be thinking of) or other life-type decisions, not health!
Sometimes bad decisions are health decisions. One of my friends will not be posting here, because shortly after he retired he had a colonoscopy and died of complications. The decision to have a colonoscopy turned out to be a very bad decision.

This post will generate objections and arguments and other points of view, but one thing that will NOT happen is a link to a credible double-blind study that clearly shows colonoscopies do more good than harm. The reason there will be no link to such a study is because there never has been such a study.

And yeah, I know you or your brother-in-law was "saved" by a colonoscopy, but my friend was killed by one. So show me the study.
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Old 07-05-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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You reap what you sow . . . SOMETIMES.

However, folks end up with all sorts of diseases, including cancer, that has no direct tie to lifestyle.

Some things are genetics . . . some things are anomalies. Who knows?

I had a dear friend (died at 72) who had lived one of the most healthy lifestyles I have ever witnessed. Rarely had a cocktail; drank wine on occasion; never smoked; kept her weight under control; walked daily and exercised regularly - from bike riding to aerobics classes throughout her life . . . was an excellent chef and cooked healthy, nutritious meals daily for her family (rarely ate out) . . . yet she died of metastasized colon cancer. No chronic illnesses or problems other than arthritis.

She was the picture of health even after her diagnosis. She "looked" perfectly healthy til only weeks before her death.

And then I have known folks who were overweight smokers and lived into their 80s.

And I have had two friends die of cancer in their late 30s (breast cancer and kidney cancer). I had a friend die of a massive heart attack at 42 - no previous history of heart disease (turns out he had a congenital problem that had never been diagnosed - and he had played college football, not overweight, didn't smoke, etc).

One's demise is not always connected to lifestyle.
For some, the genetic factor takes over and overrides lifestyle. Even though many researches now say that genetics is only a piece of the pie. I've seen the same thing, several friends dying who had taken care of themselves, and others like my late relatives smoking and drinking and being couch potatos and living to a ripe old age. It's all a puzzlement, but in the meantime, we do what we can to follow the wise advice about health. And see what unfolds for us.
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