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Old 11-14-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Northern IL
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It was a joke.
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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My biggest concern with her is I don't trust her. I am left leaning and would probably end up voting for her because I think what she will probably push for is more in line with my thinking than the GOP candidate, even if it is one of the closer to center candidates. For example, her resistance to reinstating Glass-Steagall bothers me. "I would do something more comprehensive" sounds like she is ready to compromise with the banks which maybe means really doing nothing. But the the GOP position is definitely to do nothing. See the problem? I have to vote for maybe getting what I think is the right course instead of definitely not getting it.
I'm just waiting for the Republicans to nominate somebody I can vote for. Their primary process is a mess. Right now the front runners are a blow hard scam artist and a certifiable lunatic. I would have voted for Romney if he hadn't been caught hiding millions of dollars in his wife's name in the Caymans to evade taxes. Before that they nominated a senile ex astronaut who decided a moron beauty queen would make a good running mate.

As near as I can tell, their propaganda machine has eaten the party. Just last week I listened to about 20 minutes of Limbaugh, and he was ranting about how Paul Ryan and the house Republicans double crossed their electorate by not shutting down the government. He called it a "betrayal." His word. The whole party is sick. They have just moved the witch hunts to radio and TV, where we can't vote them out of office. Just hand Joseph McCarthy a microphone and a salary and you have Alex Jones.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Politics has just gotten more and more liberal. Makes me sick.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: North West Arkansas (zone 6b)
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Politics has just gotten more and more liberal. Makes me sick.
I think it would be hard to argue this point either for or against.

Despite the fact that the conservative politicians "say" the media is liberal and not friendly to them, we do have a disproportionate number of conservative talk show hosts on the TV as well as on Radio. MSNBC *might* balance out Fox but I'm not sure. How would anyone actually measure weather politics have gone one way or another?

The supreme court is biased to the right as well as congress. Redistricting (gerrymadering) in the conservative states are allowed to happen thanks to well placed people at all levels of government.

A candidate's religion seems more important to voters than actual experience. What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

The fact that a whole party's standing rests on tax breaks for corporations which
a) don't vote
b) freely hide assets offshore to evade taxes

seems outrageous to me and I wonder what the authors of the constitution would think of such practices.

One of my kid's school buddies from Texas thought outloud that tollroads should be implemented everywhere just like in Texas because it allows people to pay for the roads that they use. I hated that idea and so did my daughter.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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I think it would be hard to argue this point either for or against.

Despite the fact that the conservative politicians "say" the media is liberal and not friendly to them, we do have a disproportionate number of conservative talk show hosts on the TV as well as on Radio. MSNBC *might* balance out Fox but I'm not sure. How would anyone actually measure weather politics have gone one way or another?

The supreme court is biased to the right as well as congress. Redistricting (gerrymadering) in the conservative states are allowed to happen thanks to well placed people at all levels of government.

A candidate's religion seems more important to voters than actual experience. What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

The fact that a whole party's standing rests on tax breaks for corporations which
a) don't vote
b) freely hide assets offshore to evade taxes

seems outrageous to me and I wonder what the authors of the constitution would think of such practices.

One of my kid's school buddies from Texas thought outloud that tollroads should be implemented everywhere just like in Texas because it allows people to pay for the roads that they use. I hated that idea and so did my daughter.


NY state built the thruway (I-90) in the 50s as a toll road but was supposed to be "paid for" and drop the tolls within a certain amount of time. OK, over 50 years....still a toll road and toll increases regularly.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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I'm just waiting for the Republicans to nominate somebody I can vote for. Their primary process is a mess. Right now the front runners are a blow hard scam artist and a certifiable lunatic. I would have voted for Romney if he hadn't been caught hiding millions of dollars in his wife's name in the Caymans to evade taxes. Before that they nominated a senile ex astronaut who decided a moron beauty queen would make a good running mate.

As near as I can tell, their propaganda machine has eaten the party. Just last week I listened to about 20 minutes of Limbaugh, and he was ranting about how Paul Ryan and the house Republicans double crossed their electorate by not shutting down the government. He called it a "betrayal." His word. The whole party is sick. They have just moved the witch hunts to radio and TV, where we can't vote them out of office. Just hand Joseph McCarthy a microphone and a salary and you have Alex Jones.
Jay Leno said the seminal moment for him in the GOP debates so far is when Carson claimed to be an attempted murderer and Trump called him a liar.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:59 PM
 
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I've gotten more liberal.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Jay Leno said the seminal moment for him in the GOP debates so far is when Carson claimed to be an attempted murderer and Trump called him a liar.
That is pretty funny.

I actually like our sloppy and messy political process, I think it opens up a lot of topics for national discussion. I'd take that over the Russian system, where discussions of alternative ideas could wind up being unhealthy for your future.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:26 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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It is a shame that he tainted his legacy that way. A surplus budget, peace and prosperity. I would have voted for him again had he been allowed to run again. I will take behaving badly but doing the job well over the converse; Bush getting us into a war based on bad intelligence (and as more evidence emerges, I am starting to believe he knew) was much more shameful IMO.
Don't forget Clinton's bombing of what turned out to be an aspirin factory in Sudan.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:32 AM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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Don't forget Clinton's bombing of what turned out to be an aspirin factory in Sudan.
Bad intelligence has led to worse blunders. The man made mistakes, but he left the country in better shape than he found it IMO.
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