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Old 11-09-2016, 03:46 AM
 
Location: New England
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This state is in debt up to it's ears, and about 60% of voters want to add more debt by approving every bond.

Sure you need to spend money in certain areas to make this state better, but how about sending a message to the general assembly. Find the money by being fiscally responsible with what they get from us.

Cicilline and Langevin win........what have they done to make RI better???


At least Mattiello is gone.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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At least Mattiello is gone.
Surely one bright spot.... or is he?

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Old 11-09-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: College Hill
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Cicilline and Langevin win........what have they done to make RI better???
The last time I ran into "David" was at a gay bar where he was doing serious "outreach" to the pre-voting age youth of Providence, which is exactly where I saw him in a prior encounter -- looked like the only innocent party was the melting ice in his drink. Tried busting him on his voter identification vote in the House but he was far too interested in getting to know the concerns of PVD's youth.

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At least Mattiello is gone.
Seems he's not willing to accept the voters did a frias on him.
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Surely one bright spot.... or is he?
It is expected Mattiello will win enough mail-in ballots to
retain his seat.

This is because, although Frias has a 143 vote lead, there are close to
500 mail-ins, with word on the street being most of them are from
disabled voters (many with dementia) who were "assisted" by Democrats
in filling out their choices.

no, I'm not joking, just the facts as they are.
tomorrow we find out for sure.
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Old 11-10-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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It is expected Mattiello will win enough mail-in ballots to
retain his seat.

This is because, although Frias has a 143 vote lead, there are close to
500 mail-ins, with word on the street being most of them are from
disabled voters (many with dementia) who were "assisted" by Democrats
in filling out their choices.

no, I'm not joking, just the facts as they are.
tomorrow we find out for sure.
When "Bob" returned on Monday to deliver the ballot, Winkler said, the man stood over him while he filled out his emergency ballot.
"I thought the ballot was private, but he's sitting over me, watching me fill out the ballot and I'm filing out the ballot ... and I circle Steve Frias," and he said: 'What did you do that for?' "
Winkler said he answered based on what he believed to be true at that point: "Steve Frias made this arrangement. I owe him the courtesy of doing that. He [Bob] said: He did not. This is from Nick Mattiello's campaign. I said: 'What? How did Nick Mattiello know I was sick and I needed an emergency ballot?"

lol.
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Old 11-10-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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This state is in debt up to it's ears, and about 60% of voters want to add more debt by approving every bond.

Sure you need to spend money in certain areas to make this state better, but how about sending a message to the general assembly. Find the money by being fiscally responsible with what they get from us.
Correct. These voters don't seem to distinguish that these things cost money. The only question that involved spending, that didn't seek money from the tax payers was question 1 concerning building the casino.

Meanwhile, many voters are mad as hell over the car tax, cause after all, if the general assembly gets rid of it, the state will somehow, magically not need the revenue, and won't absorb it from another source such as even higher property taxes.
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Old 11-10-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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Every spending measure that's decided on by the voters, should have a means of paying for it attached. New taxes/fees or spending cuts to whatever else. Only then, will the voters probably smarten up.
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Old 11-12-2016, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Latest news on this: RI tax revenue on the upswing once again | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News

If this is really true (we've been lied to on the budget before) it would be really great to work on lowering the car excise tax.
It would also be good for RI car sales since so many avoid having to buy new cars for that reason.
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Old 11-12-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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Latest news on this: RI tax revenue on the upswing once again | WPRI 12 Eyewitness News

If this is really true (we've been lied to on the budget before) it would be really great to work on lowering the car excise tax.
It would also be good for RI car sales since so many avoid having to buy new cars for that reason.
Well Holly, it's not surprising that that "tax" revenue is up because the property taxes have been going up out of pace with the cost of living for years. This past year my property taxes went up by a whopping 21%. Mr Elorza seems very proud that he can re-evaluate property taxes based on "some" home sales in the area, specifically after the real estate boom prices that crashed in 2008. For the first time in the 18 years I've owned my house, the real estate property values are taxed at an assessed rate higher than what I could possibly sell my house for. And yes, I did contest it, the 21% was the new lower value, after I was successful in having the appraisal lowered. My taxes before I contested it, were approximately 38% higher than what I paid in 2015. Providence sucks. Of course, Mr Elorza probably has the same attitude many of the rich politicians have in this city, which is, "if you can't afford it, or don't want to pay it, just "sell". But, what many don't realize, is that after a property has sold, it increases the incidence, or likelihood of a foreclosure. Supposedly, real estate sales lately are doing better in RI, but not so much, if at all, in Providence.
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Old 11-12-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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Well Holly, it's not surprising that that "tax" revenue is up because the property taxes have been going up out of pace with the cost of living for years. This past year my property taxes went up by a whopping 21%. Mr Elorza seems very proud that he can re-evaluate property taxes based on "some" home sales in the area, specifically after the real estate boom prices that crashed in 2008. For the first time in the 18 years I've owned my house, the real estate property values are taxed at an assessed rate higher than what I could possibly sell my house for. And yes, I did contest it, the 21% was the new lower value, after I was successful in having the appraisal lowered. My taxes before I contested it, were approximately 38% higher than what I paid in 2015. Providence sucks. Of course, Mr Elorza probably has the same attitude many of the rich politicians have in this city, which is, "if you can't afford it, or don't want to pay it, just "sell". But, what many don't realize, is that after a property has sold, it increases the incidence, or likelihood of a foreclosure. Supposedly, real estate sales lately are doing better in RI, but not so much, if at all, in Providence.
Property taxes are not collected by the state.
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