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Is Rhode Island a safe state? I'm from Detroit so I know bad when I see it. All I know is that Rhode Island is densely populated
Sorry you have to endure several pages of arguing on the topic from the locals and distant “locals”
To just simplify it for you- it is safe in RI; just take your “street smarts” with you from Detroit And do not get involved in criminal activities yourself.
Sorry you have to endure several pages of arguing on the topic from the locals and distant “locals”
To just simplify it for you- it is safe in RI; just take your “street smarts” with you from Detroit And do not get involved in criminal activities yourself.
Hopefully you can find a job first.
Good luck!!
Endure? A job search in Rhode Island is gonna make this feel like a birthday party.
Sorry you have to endure several pages of arguing on the topic from the locals and distant “locals”
To just simplify it for you- it is safe in RI; just take your “street smarts” with you from Detroit And do not get involved in criminal activities yourself.
Hopefully you can find a job first.
Good luck!!
"Do not get involved in criminal activities yourself". Thank goodness this fella weighed in!
Endure? A job search in Rhode Island is gonna make this feel like a birthday party.
Not sure why are you so PO at RI. To the point of almost trolling everyone who makes even semi positive comment about RI.
Please give it a rest already unless you singlehandedly take upon yourself to rid RI of its population for some reason.
I lived/ live elsewhere but quite familiar with RI- like it a lot and I live in the best place ( to me) of all places
All I am trying to say- life isn’t easy anywhere- and each area has its own set of problems- one just has to pick which set of problems one prefer to deal with.
OP asked a question about safety- everybody shares his/ her opinion. Now you attacking a lack of jobs in RI here. Maybe an OP is highly qualified- they did not ask about jobs, maybe they have an offer already. OP could be independently wealthy as well and does not need a job?
Just on one site alone more than 6000 jobs open in RI now for you to explore.
In addition- a lot of medical field jobs available from low qualified to the doctors and nurses.
If all else would fail- there are foster parents and social services jobs available- won’t get rich but could pay bills.
Not sure why are you so PO at RI. To the point of almost trolling everyone who makes even semi positive comment about RI.
Please give it a rest already unless you singlehandedly take upon yourself to rid RI of its population for some reason.
I lived/ live elsewhere but quite familiar with RI- like it a lot and I live in the best place ( to me) of all places
All I am trying to say- life isn’t easy anywhere- and each area has its own set of problems- one just has to pick which set of problems one prefer to deal with.
OP asked a question about safety- everybody shares his/ her opinion. Now you attacking a lack of jobs in RI here. Maybe an OP is highly qualified- they did not ask about jobs, maybe they have an offer already. OP could be independently wealthy as well and does not need a job?
Just on one site alone more than 6000 jobs open in RI now for you to explore.
In addition- a lot of medical field jobs available from low qualified to the doctors and nurses.
If all else would fail- there are foster parents and social services jobs available- won’t get rich but could pay bills.
That's preposterous. The mob didn't keep crime in check, crime was their business. Nice of them to protect THEIR women and children, but that doesn't hp the rest of society, who they were robbing, exploiting, bullying, and extorting.
By the way, I highly recommend the Crime Town podcast to anyone who wants to learn more about the mob in Providence.
Please go back and read my post again, I NEVER said they weren't in the crime business (duh, they are the "mob" after all...). But funny thing is, despite the menace they created among society back then; you never heard about the random jumpings, rapings, etc. that happen far too constantly today. My point stands that to the average bystander, things were FAR safer back then. Was true in Federal Hill, also true in East Boston. And it's also very true that many of their "victims" weren't so "innocent".
Please go back and read my post again, I NEVER said they weren't in the crime business (duh, they are the "mob" after all...). But funny thing is, despite the menace they created among society back then; you never heard about the random jumpings, rapings, etc. that happen far too constantly today. My point stands that to the average bystander, things were FAR safer back then. Was true in Federal Hill, also true in East Boston. And it's also very true that many of their "victims" weren't so "innocent".
I will put Crime Town on my list.
I can honestly say that I hear no more about "random" rapes today than back then. But then, it's only a miniscule amount of rapes that are ever "random" anyway; most people are raped by someone they knew and trusted. So yeah, I think it's safe to assume that included some mobster girlfriends and acquaintances - who weren't very likely to report it, for obvious reasons.
Jumpings? Maybe there are more today. Maybe not. I think you overrate how much "better" it was in the old days. Check out the stats - there were fewer robberies, burglaries, aggravated assaults, and WAY fewer auto thefts in 2016 than during the peak mob years. The murder rate doesn't follow any pattern, be it incline or decline, but I think we both agree it's the robberies that are more likely to happen to innocent victims. Rape is higher than it was in the 70s but hopefully some of that is due to more willingness to report. Maybe not. Maybe it just seems like crime is so much higher now because you're inundated with coverage of it 24/7 now.
I do agree with you that oftentimes violent crime victims are involved in something they shouldn't be involved in with people they shouldn't be involved with. That's as true today as it was back then. But google Ronnie McElroy and Bobo Marrapese, if you don't think that gangsters killed average bystanders. If you're psycho enough to kill for a dollar, then you're psycho enough to kill, period. So sick of people romanticizing the mob and pretending they followed a strict code. I think all the people the mob shook down for protection money were innocent victims as well, as well as all the consumers who had to pay the high price of graft, corruption, hijackings, etc.
Having been around long enough to see both, that's pretty nuts. In 1982, old train tracks and empty parking lots stood where the Providence Place Mall, Memorial Boulevard, Waterplace condos and Blue Cross are. Citizens Plaza, the Omni, the Convention Center, the safety complex, the new train station, Avalon apartments, the condos on Canal Street - none of that existed. The old Masonic temple had been abandoned decades ago and was graffiti-ridden. The river was covered over, India Point Park was avoided unless you were looking to complete a drug deal, the Columbus was a porn theater, and the Dean Hotel was the Civic View Inn, a flop house and strip club.
I mean, it's cool if you don't like any of these changes, but to claim that nothing has changed just isn't realistic. I'll give you the East Side, that hasn't changed much.
I didn't say the city had done nothing; that's the kind of hairsplitting that takes place on these forums all the time. I will give you that the Woonasquatucket is significantly changed from 1982 ... though the Moshassuck really isn't. The other developments you talk about are all downtown, and a number of them were well along in planning in early 80s (like the Convention Center and train station).
But, the addition of an underutilized mall, a train station, and some apartment buildings between the State House and the rivers doesn't really balance out South Providence, Federal Hill, Smith Hill, Mt. Pleasant, Olneyville, etc... not having had really anything positive done to them (Go ahead and tell me about the Coffee Exchange on Wickenden). And, the East Side is still much the same East Side from Brown to Wayland Square to Pawtucket.
Providence suffers from precisely the kind of non-neighborhood-centric development that has decimated many American cities. I'm just surprised that it still hasn't gotten "the memo." Smith Hill is going to be a complete wreck if something isn't done soon.
I will absolutely give you that the Masonic Temple/Veterans Memorial Auditorium rehab was a big win (close to the demolition ball). And, I will give you that Providence is still not Detroit!
Providence suffers from precisely the kind of non-neighborhood-centric development that has decimated many American cities. I'm just surprised that it still hasn't gotten "the memo." Smith Hill is going to be a complete wreck if something isn't done soon.
Would be interested to hear more on this. What examples do you have and what do you think Prov should do?
What about Smith Hill?
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