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Old 05-31-2022, 03:48 PM
 
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Rochester is the heart of the area, but its school system is one of the worst in the state -- and in the country.

In other areas of the country, county systems are used. Many towns and suburbs are part of ONE school system. Students do much better, costs are lower, and so taxes are lower.

If Rochester's city schools were better, that would affect, in a positive way, the entire area.

What do you think? Should there be a MONROE COUNTY school system?
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:54 PM
 
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Rochester is the heart of the area, but its school system is one of the worst in the state -- and in the country.

In other areas of the country, county systems are used. Many towns and suburbs are part of ONE school system. Students do much better, costs are lower, and so taxes are lower.

If Rochester's city schools were better, that would affect, in a positive way, the entire area.

What do you think? Should there be a MONROE COUNTY school system?
In theory , yes, absolutely, but they don't seem interested in having a successful school system within the city
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:08 PM
 
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There are multiple reasons for a county school district that includes likely lower school taxes, more educational opportunity for students, etc. However, as discussed in the buffalo forum, Rochester being the 3rd or 4th biggest school district in the state, is a Big 5 school district and in turn, the district is viewed as being a part of the city's budget, if I'm not mistaken. I also believe that there is a state constitution aspect that prevents Big 5 SD's from consolidating with other school districts. This article from a Rochester area group get into this: A consolidated county school district is not in the cards.

Within the RCSD, schools or programs such as the World of Inquiry(School 58), School of the Arts, East High, Rochester Early College International HS and the International Baccalaureate program at Wilson are actually high achieving or have improved greatly academically. Many families also go the charter: https://www.goodschoolsroc.org/ or private school route in the city.
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Old 06-03-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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When I first moved from GA to New York State that was one of the first things I said, "What the heck is (insert town/village) central school district and why isn't it just (insert county) School District?"
In GA everything is at the county level. For example I graduated from Clayton County Public Schools. It seems like Monroe County (and the rest of NYS) could save so much money if they were to combine everything and create a Monroe County School District.
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Old 06-03-2022, 02:13 PM
 
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Yes, the OPPORTUNITY for savings exist, but first, there would be a lot of patronage jobs, getting the supers to give up their power.

Second, the budget will be huge, comparatively. Lot's of money provides too much opportunity for corruption.

We have way too much corruption in our government now. Let's work on that
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Old 06-04-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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^The issue with that is that you still have the layers behind the high school taxes even if all of the corruption* is removed. Meaning, that the current school district structure contributes to why school taxes make up the biggest portion of property taxes.

*Also, is there that much corruption in school districts in the county? I know what you appear to be referring to, but does that apply in terms of this specific topic?

Lastly, this could also occur in a way that is similar to the structure in some Kentucky counties where there is a city school district surrounded by a county school district. Of course, the issue is that the city SD in this case still doesn’t allow for more choice for city students outside of the Suburban/Urban program. For those that aren’t familiar with that program: https://www.monroe.edu/urbansuburban
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Old 06-04-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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^The issue with that is that you still have the layers behind the high school taxes even if all of the corruption* is removed. Meaning, that the current school district structure contributes to why school taxes make up the biggest portion of property taxes.
You always have a different way of thinking than me, so could you in your own words (no links) spell out the different structures to show the financial ramifications of a metro SD.

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Old 06-04-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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You always have a different way of thinking than me, so could you in your own words (no links) spell out the different structures to show the financial ramifications of a metro SD.

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What? They are just simple questions and other posters also mentioned the difference in structure between here and the countywide school district structure in states like GA and NC. So, this doesn’t have so much to do with a difference in thought, but addressing the “corruption” aspect that you mentioned and the fact as to why the school tax portion of property taxes are higher due to having so many school districts.

Lastly, you don’t get to dictate how someone can post.
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Old 06-04-2022, 12:48 PM
 
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What? They are just simple questions and other posters also mentioned the difference in structure between here and the countywide school district structure in states like GA and NC. So, this doesn’t have so much to do with a difference in thought, but addressing the “corruption” aspect that you mentioned and the fact as to why the school tax portion of property taxes are higher due to having so many school districts.

Lastly, you don’t get to dictate how someone can post.
I asked a simple question. Don't understand why you can't explain what you're saying in your posts
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Old 06-04-2022, 01:14 PM
 
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I asked a simple question. Don't understand why you can't explain what you're saying in your posts
I did and it was pretty straightforward, but you didn’t address the corruption claim in relation to the topic. That was all I asked. How does corruption come into play in regards to the formation of a countywide SD in Monroe County(or the current multiple SD structure)?

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