06-23-2013, 01:26 PM
Location: Northern Michigan
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Hello,
We have been researching a move from northern Michigan to Utah for several months now. After a 2 week trip to Utah, in early June, we have decided it is a for sure in mid August. My husband is self employed so job hunting isn't a part of the equation
We are looking to rent for several months so that we can "learn" the areas that will best suit us, but we would like some input please. We are from a very rural area so the SLC valley is definitely not an option. I have read the many reviews from many of you, and am thankful for information that I would never get in the chamber of commence sites! Many months ago, I had never heard about inversions, but thanks to this forum I have researched it extensively and am slowly understanding where the most likely areas are & when they potentially come. We are pretty sure that we want to be on the back side of the Wasatch's due to the smaller towns there. We have very few neighbors where we live now. All wave at the mailbox, but I don't know any of their names. We all just kind of stick to ourselves, but all would come immediately if needed by a neighbor. That's the kind of town we are looking for. We are a family of 6 (kids: twins 15, & 17 yr. old, plus one daughter will be heading to college in fall). All of my kids are very easygoing and adapt well to new friends, places, & new situations. We don't have a "fear" of the LDS families, even though we are Catholic. We have known some in past and our kids get along with their kids well. Religion never came up...just swimming, biking, dirt bike riding, and other summer stuff etc.
Wondering about more quiet areas outside of Park City. Looked at Heber, but we are considering Catholic High Schools in Valley, so driving is an issue. Any info on small towns and schools (Juan Diego Catholic, Judge Memorial, or Park City High) would be greatly appreciated. Info on the kids taking the UTA bus to school as well. That is very foreign to us. I did make us all get on the TRAXX train in SLC just so we all could understand it somewhat. Have nothing remotely like this here
We all work well as a family and are up to the challenge of adjustments. In fact our kids go to small Catholic school here, and principal laughed when I told her where we were considering moving..states our kids are adventurous-just like my husband & I.
Look forward to your comments and thanks in advance.
06-23-2013, 01:54 PM
Location: Mostly in my head
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Judge Memorial is very good - I know a few LDS families who send their boys there for the rigorous education. Likewise, the Cathedral School of the Madeleine is good but for girls. However, living on the other side of the mountain is not very reasonable for attending school in the valley. The hours spent getting there and back take away from any extracurricular or family activities.
I would re-think your plan and compromise on something.
06-23-2013, 02:35 PM
Location: Northern Michigan
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Thanks for you reply. I have had a few people tell me that Judge Memorial was about 20-30 minutes from Park City and that there were buses. Is it further? My 17 yr old could drive them, but we do want something reasonable. We did the hour drive to the school where they are at for 5 years, but gas prices & sports killed us so we moved closer.
We looked at Juan Diego when we were there, but didn't have a chance to see Judge Memorial. After talking to several people we refocused on Park City High versus Wasatch High for the potential public schools and Juan & Judge depending on distance from quieter living area.
06-23-2013, 03:11 PM
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Sorry, can't help with times.
06-24-2013, 12:11 PM
Location: Utah
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Driving from Park City to Judge everyday for school wouldn't be a good plan during the winter. Driving I-80 through Parley's Canyon can be treacherous. I doubt any mom would want their teen doing that.
I don't have kids so can't help you with deciding where your kids should attend vs where you will live.
06-24-2013, 01:37 PM
Location: Northern Michigan
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Thanks for the info. We have real bad roads here in Michigan, as we live in the snow belt area,so we are used to bad weather. I definitely don't let the kids drive here when it's bad, so I appreciate the info. Can anyone tell me about some of the canyon areas that are outside of Salt Lake City, but are not closed in the winter. I have looked at pictures of some of the land and it is very pretty, but I don't know if the roads are drivable in the winter. Does anyone have kids that go to Park City High? Any info on new kids assimilating would be appreciated. Thanks for all the answers so far.
06-26-2013, 11:52 PM
Location: USA
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In my experience the public schools are on par with the private schools around here. The commute is definitely not worth it just to go to Judge, IMO.
There aren't really very many 'canyon towns' around. Alta and Emigration Township are in canyons themselves (and accessible in winter), but are very close to the valley and pretty much depend on it. Also, I don't think you'd get much of a town feel, as many of the houses are used seasonally by people who don't actually live there. Of course, this will be the case to a much greater degree in Park City and its surroundings, as a great portion of the homes are used as vacation rentals, seasonal getaways, and retirement destinations. If you don't mind keeping to yourself and potentially being lonely, I'd move to Midway in a heartbeat.
06-27-2013, 08:40 PM
Location: Northern Michigan
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Are there actual neighborhoods up in the alta canyon? We didn't drive there when we visited and it is hard to get a feel for things online. We did drive through Midway and loved the Deer Creek reservoir area south of there. Again having hard time matching neighborhood areas that are quiet, not much in the line of neighbors to the schools without the $$$$ price tag for housing
. I wish I could jump on a plane and just drive around again, but it isn't realistic at this point. I appreciate all the "eyes" for me that have responded. Thanks again to everyone.
06-27-2013, 09:57 PM
Location: Salt Lake City
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Are there actual neighborhoods up in the alta canyon?
Not right in the canyon itself, but just at the base of the canyon. My brother-in-law just retired as a ski instructor at Alta. He lives just about five minutes from the mouth of the canyon.
06-03-2014, 12:24 AM
Location: Northern Michigan
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We made the move to Utah from MI (we're non LDS) and we are doing FINE
Hi, thought I should write an update on our move from Michigan to Utah as I remember worrying if my kids would fit in with the LDS kids since we are Catholic. We ended up moving to Heber City (10 minutes from Park City), where the high school is quite large. They have a newer school and we were surprised at how well the kids were kept in line. Not in a mean way, but it was obvious there were rules that were expected to be followed. My kids have lots of friends that are both LDS and Non LDS. We have learned which families don't allow their children to do things with our kids on Sundays and who they can hang out with on a Sunday night if schools out. My kids go with friends o young men night and play team sports (LDS sponsored at their ward). We haven't been hit with others trying to convert us. Sure my boys on occasion hear that "you should come to our church to be baptized" , but they just remind the kids that they are baptized- Catholic...and that's usually the end of that. I don't know too many adults yet, but at work most of my co workers are LDS and they might at first meeting, but we quickly found common conversation not focused on religion. My friends outside of work are LDS, but like those back in Michigan we haven't ever focused our conversations on religion...we laugh more at how "they" have an accent, not me!
I find the schools to be much more conservative then back in MI. I was shocked to see an "In God We Trust" posted in huge block letters above the office of the public school, and we have prayed before a cross country banquet, but that suits me just fine. The town is very family oriented, with lots of parks, rec center, skate park etc...
We found the Catholic church in Park City suits us best. The choir is amazing and the church is small tucked back in the mountains, which is perfect for us.
We have seen the inversions creeping up the canyons (Provo & Parleys) but we have have had no problems in the year that we have been here. We miss our green trees and lakes in MI, but up higher in the mountains are green and there are several reservoirs for swimming. Provo canyon is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful areas I have ever seen. Parleys is like a Michigan expressway twisted through the mountains, race track style! Going from Park City to SLC is all downhill and was quite unnerving the first many times we drove it! One explanation is at the top you can let off of your brakes and go about 85 all the way down. We quickly found out good brakes and good tires (with chains in the winter) are a must in Utah mountains.
The outdoor activities are fabulous. It has been a learning experience to dirt bike (or drive) with mountain drop off. We had many trees to maneuver around on our trails in MI, but it seems a whole lot scarier to see long way drop offs on either side of a riding trail. My kids ski, dirt bike, bike, hike, climb and lots more here. It seems everybody is active here.
I hope this will help others who are considering the move....I know there were many here that tried to help us understand what Utah was like before we moved here. So we're paying it forward.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)