gps/chip in student id's (sale, transporting, insurance)

[AFMike]

This story is completely misleading! RFID is in no way "GPS Tracking"...

Please educate yourselves before forming a lynch mob, RFID is only good up to 10m from a receiver.

Oh, for the record all US passports since 2006 already have them in it...and if your pet is chiped, guess what? RFID!

http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/.../2005/rfid.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-f...identification

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by pfil

no offense sir but that won't ever happen as long as there are parents . even worse, parents who were once working for a school's system (ie. subs, low end admins,...) .

we fail to demand our kids go to school each day, we treat schools and teachers like over-paid babysitters; the schools have become a more rigid form of the mall in some parent's eyes .

i say good for this . privacy of a kid ? what rights ? what should i fear ? i'll call up my school and ask, say sport...where's my son ? and the reply will be...well sir, he's 5 feet from his desk, where...he...should...be .

but pfil, i don't want some stranger tracking my kid .
why not ?
what if it's a perv
seriously ?
well it's against the freedoms america was founded upon
well son, we've abused those rights

can we please let the schools turn back to being an institution instead of a recreation ?

No offense taken, my kids' attendance is not an issue; but I don't see the motivation behind this to better these kids' education but to ensure the schools continue to draw monies from the state and Federal governments.

I don't see this as a solution to attendance problems, just a waste of money and an infringement of privacy. As I stated, students that are not in class are most likely not on campus, and given the limited range and capability I just am not seeing the 'bang for the buck.'

I'd rather the limited funds go into improving the education of those students who do make it to class. Hunting down those who skip and making them sit in class doesn't mean they're suddenly going to get an interest in their education.

So sorry, while I agree it is more than the school's responsibility to get the students where they need to be; I don't agree with wasting already limited funds on those who: 1) don't have an interest in being there, and 2) whose parents don't care either way.

[datacity]

So, if johnny doesn't raise his hand during roll call, but according to RFID is shown to still be on school grounds, the district collects $ for the day? I would assume someone still has to physically verify that he is actually on grounds and has not just left his card in a locker... or given it to someone else.

Oh, why don't they just get a fancy Casino style video system installed with facial recognition and be done with it? If your kid is not doing anything wrong, then he or she does not have to worry.

Yeah, I am not sure this is the answer or the right message to teach the next generation of our our society's leaders. As parents and citizens, maybe we ought to nudge our representatives to fix the underlying method by which schools receive monies so they don't consider these types of solutions.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by AFMike

This story is completely misleading! RFID is in no way "GPS Tracking"...

Please educate yourselves before forming a lynch mob, RFID is only good up to 10m from a receiver.

Oh, for the record all US passports since 2006 already have them in it...and if your pet is chiped, guess what? RFID!

All About RFID radio frequency identification - Webopedia.com
Radio-frequency identification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good point, which begs the question as to how the school is going to be able to monitor the students using the RFID chip in their ID cards.

Also, there are numerous easy ways to defeat an RFID reader, I carry my badges in a holder that makes them unreadable to a scanner.

Again, this just shows what a bad idea this is...

[txtea]

Good lord..what's next? Again, I am SO glad my son is being home-schooled...and doing very well.

This program is ridiculous! Just another waste of tax dollars for a near- sighted program that will line the pockets of someone, laughing their way to the bank.....business as usual.

[Bo]

Originally Posted by txtea

This program is ridiculous! Just another waste of tax dollars for a near- sighted program that will line the pockets of someone, laughing their way to the bank.....business as usual.

Did you read the story? Seems like a good return on the taxpayers' investment IMO. $1.45M in state and Federal money gained by the district in a single year from installing $500K worth of equipment in one school. The year-over-year revenue gains will be even bigger, since the same equipment can be used. More, please!

[MsSpiderWeb]

No thanks. If the schools are "constantly losing students" that just screams red flag to me.

[OaklandR]

Originally Posted by AFMike

This story is completely misleading! RFID is in no way "GPS Tracking"...

Please educate yourselves before forming a lynch mob, RFID is only good up to 10m from a receiver.

Oh, for the record all US passports since 2006 already have them in it...and if your pet is chiped, guess what? RFID!

[url=http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Computer_Science/2005/rfid.asp]All About RFID radio frequency identification - Webopedia.com[/url]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification]Radio-frequency identification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Depending on what info was on there someone with an RFID skimmer could hang around a mall after school and gather info.

It all depends how the info is stored. A passport contains no personal info just a reference ID that is looked up in a government database which has the info. I'm guessing government data is stored a little better than what they are going to do. Maybe it will be just as good.

I personally would opt out if it was implemented in my daughters school.

[majormadmax]

Originally Posted by Bo

Did you read the story? Seems like a good return on the taxpayers' investment IMO. $1.45M in state and Federal money gained by the district in a single year from installing $500K worth of equipment in one school. The year-over-year revenue gains will be even bigger, since the same equipment can be used. More, please!

Sorry, but you know those numbers are way over-inflated. I don't see this system being able to magically make all those students missing school suddenly appear.

I suspect the actual figures will be considerably lower, maybe even as low as 15-20% at best.

As I've stated, the majority of students missing school are not on school grounds; thus making this proposal useless for locating them.

And adding the ease in which RFID scanners can be countered, those who are skipping classes will most likely render them useless to the administration in trying to locate them...

Cheers! M2

[J1ndo]

Originally Posted by majormadmax

As I've stated, the majority of students missing school are not on school grounds; thus making this proposal useless for locating them.

I have to agree. I just don't see that many kids being in the nursing office or counseling center in two schools to equal the savings being touted.

If I were really cynical, I'd say it's a way for the schools to get their tax money, be seen to be doing their duty in tracking kids, and yet not have to fuss with the truants. "So Johnny gave Tommy his ID so he could ditch for the day, you say? We'll look into that... some day."

But I'm not that cynical. I bet the sales reps just did a really good job of getting the administration excited about this product, so excited that they didn't really give the projected results the scrutiny they deserved.