Homelessness in San Diego (real estate, apartment, lease)

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Right, there aren’t enough homes for them all.

A 14% drop is great. Not sure where you get your information about the growth factor.

Also curious where you got your information that most Housing First was/is for families and not chronics. That’s just not true. Housing First for Families are separate programs from the individual chronics. Lots of differences there. Housing First for chronics is very active.

From your link:


Housing First approaches are based on the concept that a homeless individual or household's first and primary need is to obtain stable housing, and that other issues that may affect the household can and should be addressed once housing is obtained. In contrast, many other programs operate from a model of "housing readiness" — that is, that an individual or household must address other issues that may have led to the episode of homelessness prior to entering housing.



Housing First is currently endorsed by the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness (USICH) as a "best practice" for governments and service-agencies to use in their fight to end chronic homelessness in America.[13]


The Housing First methodology was initially developed in 1988 in Los Angeles, California, to address an increase in family homelessness. The basic methodology helps homeless families to relocate from shelters and transitional housing directly into permanent rental housing in the community at-large as quickly as possible, with home-based case management support for a traditional period of time. In other words, the services traditionally being provided in transitional housing were instead provided to families after they had been assisted in relocating to permanent housing at rents they could afford. This was a major innovation in the field at the time. The basic premise was that families were more responsive to interventions and support from a stable permanent housing base than while still homeless. In the 2009 HEARTH Act, the Housing First approach to ending homelessness was codified into law. Housing First programs for families differ dramatically from Housing First for the chronically homeless, as children are involved.[40] Beyond Shelter's leadership promoted this new approach across the country for the next 20 years, working collaboratively with the National Alliance to End Homelessness.

[bmd69]

I heard their all over now, I left in 2006.

[stablegenius]

Originally Posted by malcorub16

My thought is that this has to do with prison realignment and non violent/non sexual offenders being released from prison to the County jails and then back onto the streets... anecdotally it seems this is one of the bigger causes more recently. What's your take?

Agreed, prop 47, 57 and ab 109

[malcorub16]

^^ There is a balance that we haven't found, one of not having over crowded prisons and one of not having excessive homelessness.

CA with it's 3 strikes law, was once a very strict state and it resulted in the largest prison population in the country. Now, it looks like Texas has overtaken the #1 as far as raw number of inmates. Percentage wise, Oklahoma and other Southern states are at the top.

[Tulemutt]

San Diego Housing First Program has just announced it has achieved a 3-year goal of creating 3,000 housing opportunities ... for which it spent $79.8 million dollars. That averages out to $26,666 per unit.

https://www.sdhc.org/news-release/hf...opportunities/

[DougStark]

Originally Posted by jnojr

Tolerating a little bit of a problem invites more of it.

We should be actively repelling the vagrants. Tents should be removed and destroyed immediately. Stolen shopping carts should be impounded. Garbage should be destroyed. Piles of citations for trespassing, illegal camping, illegal fires, littering,rug paraphernalia, stolen property, etc. should be liberally handed out.

Many will say, "Oh, but that doesn't solve the problem!" That's correct... but nothing can. What we can do, though, is solve our problem... make it clear the transients are not welcome here, and the draw of the weather isn't worth the hassle. They will go somewhere else, and we will have usable streets again.

Thank you! It's the Rudy Giuliana strategy: Don't even tolerate one broken window or any graffiti. Bums Sleeping in the sidewalks, parks? Take them away to a drunk-tank to sober up. This coddling of the "homeless" does not work.

One morning on my way to work on I-5 south near downtown/Imperial Ave, there was a big man who had his big "thing" out, pissing on the ice plants for everyone to see. Nasty. Should have been arrested.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by DougStark

Thank you! It's the Rudy Giuliana strategy: Don't even tolerate one broken window or any graffiti. Bums Sleeping in the sidewalks, parks? Take them away to a drunk-tank to sober up. This coddling of the "homeless" does not work.

One morning on my way to work on I-5 south near downtown/Imperial Ave, there was a big man who had his big "thing" out, pissing on the ice plants for everyone to see. Nasty. Should have been arrested.

That used to get "regular folks" a trip to jail and a spot on a sex offenders list.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by aileesic

Why do people always address first the homeless alcoholics, drug addicts, and prison inmates when the first ones needing shelter are the mid to severely disabled without family, addictions, or lengthy criminal histories, and who would be extremely grateful to have a decent place live?

Now legal to live where you want to in your vehicle. For now it's free. Don't bet on it lasting long. The city will see it as a way to install paid parking to fix a problem they created.


Claim your beach front parking while you can

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

That used to get "regular folks" a trip to jail and a spot on a sex offenders list.

As long as I’m picking on you today re: Girl Scout cookies ... might as well raise the protest flag re: your homeless posts as well

Homeless pizzing in public is, of course, gross, at least ...however, it wouldn’t qualify as a “sex offense” against the bladder-challenged any more than it would for any [huge] number of working joe’s realizing they can’t make it home from the tavern after a pitcher of beer, so stop to pizz in the parking lot to reduce any chance of soiling the carpets in their car that doesn’t have any of those laser designed Weather-Tech rubber floor mats to contain the outflow.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Now legal to live where you want to in your vehicle. For now it's free. Don't bet on it lasting long. The city will see it as a way to install paid parking to fix a problem they created.


Claim your beach front parking while you can

Aaaand one more ...

Homeless living in cars and rv’s is waaaay better than on the street. From your link the other day:

Kersey said. ``It's certainly not a permanent solution to the crisis that we're facing by any means, but 100 percent of the time I'd rather have someone sleeping in a car than on the sidewalk.''

Meanwhile, as I posted a couple days ago, good news:

https://www.sdhc.org/news-release/hf...opportunities/

Let’s hear it for San Diego converting conceptual solutions to reality.