LGBT and Cheap neighborhood: SF or Oakland?

[majoun]

Originally Posted by rah

There are cheaper parts of SF than the Mission (which has gotten more expensive because of increasing popularity/trendiness from increasing gentrification), and no, the Mission is not completely overrun with hipsters. Parts of it are though, such as Valencia Street, Dolores Park...the part west of Mission street in general is gentrified Hipster central, while the rest is still heavily working class and Latino, with large numbers of immigrants, and only some hipsters here and there. Also, despite this being SF, still be prepared for possibly a little extra homophobia if you live in a poorer area...it unfortunately seems to come with the territory. That said, there is a lesbian bar in the Mission District (the Lexington), as well as a gay Latino bar (Esta Noche) that i know of (and in the Mission spirit, they're both dive bars), and the Castro District borders the Mission as well.

The NW part of the Mission closest to the Castro is the most gentrified part of the Mission, and thus has the most hipsters. Valencia's the dividing line between the gentrified Mission to the west and the ungentrified Mission to the east.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by Lazermazer

Hey!

searching craigslist and apartment listings online is overwhelming! the results are either too expensive or I feel clueless about the neighborhood.

So far I feel the Mission is the only place in SF I could afford, but has the mission district been completely overrun by hipsters?

Oakland prices sound reasonable, do que3r (accurate spelling of the word is censored) friendly and cheap neighborhoods exist there?

Thank you in advance for any help!

Are you joking? Seriously?

[jade408]

I'd live in Oakland. Easy trip to SF when you want, lots of LGBT people and couples, there are some gay bars and such if that is your scene, but it is generally very inclusive. Adam's Point is good, neighboring the Grand Lake and Piedmont Ave areas are fine as well. You don't need to live in SF for a LGBT friendly community, I know gay couples all over the bay.

[ssmaster]

the OP is in wisconsin.people living in the bay area can forgot how life is for lgbt people in other parts of the country.most of the bay area is extremely tolerant

i have friends from the industrial midwest who moved to the castro and jumped into the whole scene and but then after a while it was not so important and they moved to the suburbs while i have other friends who will never leave the castro.

if you want a strong lgbt community and solidarity move to the castro.
if you want to live where your neighbors will treat you the same regardess of orientation you can find that in many places in the bay area

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

qu33r

Why is this a "bad" unspeakable word in this forum, anyway?