suggestions on loving san francisco (Los Angeles, Oakland: transplants, house, living)

[mayorhaggar]

Check out Oakland, and if you still hate the Bay Area go move to the Moon.

[gnomatic]

Originally Posted by andyadhi01

Probably because SF sucks way more than those other places!

No..we are just more tolerant of people. Angry trolls included.

[migol84]

Not that I don't like San Francisco, as this city does offer so much that it's not even funny. But I've been living here for about 3.5 months and I can relate to the OP in a sense. I think personally for me it has more to do with me being homesick. So I think a better question for me to ask is how can I get over my last home? I live near the Portola neighborhood and quite honestly this area is junk. I think my San Francisco experience is being distracted by the fact that everyday I have to ride the 8X, 8AX muni, which I hear is the worst route to ride. And every day when I come home I feel like doing nothing but just lay on my bed and stream on the internet. It's the worst feeling but the only reason why I don't feel like going out is because I get tired having to ride that bus all the time and the T Line gets even worse.

I've been meaning to ride a bike, but most importantly I've been meaning to move out of this neighborhood where I can walk to different neighborhoods and back home when it gets dark. It's funny because I assumed that's how my experience would be here. Back home, I was able to walk just about anywhere and sadly that hasn't been the case for me. Of course, i've just settled in and I can't complain because the rent is cheap and I'm actually doing quite good financially despite what many people warned me.

But unfortunately for me I'm still without friends and haven't really experienced the city the way I'd like to. I go to the Land Mark Theaters a lot and I'm always people watching. I mostly hang out at the Mission or Nob Hill as I feel those are the neighborhoods that mostly appeal to me.

But I'm kinda with the OP on this one... any suggestions any of you can make for me to forget about home? I'm sure I will eventually... especially when i start school because then I'll get to meet more people and that's just exciting. And I'm really not going back to Austin despite the fact that I miss it dearly. so please help me love San Francisco more too!

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by andyadhi01

You will sing a different tune about the fog if you have to live in it day after day

You obviously haven't lived in the valley and not seen the sun for 14 days straight some years.

I also used to live in the Outer Sunset and Parkside Neighborhoods, the foggiest areas of the Bay. Those SF areas still have got nothing on the Valley when the tule fog rolls in and an inversion layer sets up literally putting a cap on the fog in the valley for weeks on end. Quit your bitching because you don't understand how good you got it.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by fedupnomad

a while back i posted about sf not having a soul. i've decided to change my approach and see if, by december, i can develop some affection for the city.

so, keeping in mind the following, what suggestions do you sf lovers have for me -
1. i'm not a yuppie or hipster but a nerdy bookish writer
2. i like it when different ethnic groups interact
3. i'm 40ish
4. it be great to have a real neighborhood
5. i'm not really chatty, but i do love real conversation. i'm from the south - people there can blather on for hours.
6. my sense of humor tends to the dry and sarcastic (not mean)

so, please help me love sf!

thanks

If you have to work that hard at it, it's probably not happening. You'd likely be better off and happier elsewhere. A new place may not fall under the category of "love at first sight" but it shouldn't take long to either love it or leave it.

[ubringliten]

Originally Posted by migol84

Not that I don't like San Francisco, as this city does offer so much that it's not even funny. But I've been living here for about 3.5 months and I can relate to the OP in a sense. I think personally for me it has more to do with me being homesick. So I think a better question for me to ask is how can I get over my last home? I live near the Portola neighborhood and quite honestly this area is junk. I think my San Francisco experience is being distracted by the fact that everyday I have to ride the 8X, 8AX muni, which I hear is the worst route to ride. And every day when I come home I feel like doing nothing but just lay on my bed and stream on the internet. It's the worst feeling but the only reason why I don't feel like going out is because I get tired having to ride that bus all the time and the T Line gets even worse.

I've been meaning to ride a bike, but most importantly I've been meaning to move out of this neighborhood where I can walk to different neighborhoods and back home when it gets dark. It's funny because I assumed that's how my experience would be here. Back home, I was able to walk just about anywhere and sadly that hasn't been the case for me. Of course, i've just settled in and I can't complain because the rent is cheap and I'm actually doing quite good financially despite what many people warned me.

But unfortunately for me I'm still without friends and haven't really experienced the city the way I'd like to. I go to the Land Mark Theaters a lot and I'm always people watching. I mostly hang out at the Mission or Nob Hill as I feel those are the neighborhoods that mostly appeal to me.

But I'm kinda with the OP on this one... any suggestions any of you can make for me to forget about home? I'm sure I will eventually... especially when i start school because then I'll get to meet more people and that's just exciting. And I'm really not going back to Austin despite the fact that I miss it dearly. so please help me love San Francisco more too!

You menitoned about getting a bike. Get one and come join us at SF bike party and you will experience what SF is all about. We go through interesting neighborhoods with all senses around you with music keep beating and other people with common interest which is riding with wind in your face. The best way to experience SF. I fell in love with SF because of riding. This is my sincere suggestion. Another one would be come over to the Ferry Bldging on a Saturday morning and stroll along the Embarcadero. You'll wonder why people love SF.

[legal_eagle]

The glue that holds many people to SF is mainly self-delusion about what SF has to offer its residents. There are many attractions for visitors, but those offerings are not something upon which to build a life. When you live here every day, as I have for 26 years, you come to realize that the city has depressing weather, overpriced housing, unavoidable panhandlers/bums, and a dysfunctional borderline socialistic city government. There is also no place to park.

You'll probably need to build some fulfilling personal relationships here in order to feel like you can "love" SF as your home. Unfortunately, that will probably require that you drink the SF smug Kool-Aid, since the prevailing ethos here is to constantly remind ourselves that SF, and we, are much better than anywhere else in the US. (See, e.g., Smuggy San Francisco Town -- South Park Video.)

[rah]

Originally Posted by legal_eagle

The glue that holds many people to SF is mainly self-delusion about what SF has to offer its residents. There are many attractions for visitors, but those offerings are not something upon which to build a life. When you live here every day, as I have for 26 years, you come to realize that the city has depressing weather, overpriced housing, unavoidable panhandlers/bums, and a dysfunctional borderline socialistic city government. There is also no place to park.

You'll probably need to build some fulfilling personal relationships here in order to feel like you can "love" SF as your home. Unfortunately, that will probably require that you drink the SF smug Kool-Aid, since the prevailing ethos here is to constantly remind ourselves that SF, and we, are much better than anywhere else in the US. (See, e.g., Smuggy San Francisco Town -- South Park Video.)

What is it with lame ass SF haters and quoting South Park? South Park is a satirical cartoon. You know what i think is smug? Ignorant people such as yourself who treat a cartoon as some sort of definitive proof of their own misconceptions.

"well SOUTH PARK said it was true, so it obviously is" *makes smug, ultra-punchable face*

[jman650]

Originally Posted by legal_eagle

The glue that holds many people to SF is mainly self-delusion about what SF has to offer its residents. There are many attractions for visitors, but those offerings are not something upon which to build a life. When you live here every day, as I have for 26 years, you come to realize that the city has depressing weather, overpriced housing, unavoidable panhandlers/bums, and a dysfunctional borderline socialistic city government. There is also no place to park.

You'll probably need to build some fulfilling personal relationships here in order to feel like you can "love" SF as your home. Unfortunately, that will probably require that you drink the SF smug Kool-Aid, since the prevailing ethos here is to constantly remind ourselves that SF, and we, are much better than anywhere else in the US. (See, e.g., Smuggy San Francisco Town -- South Park Video.)

Hmmm, funny that it took you "26 years of living here" to come up with the exact same views as online trolls, people who have never been here, or morons that moved here w/o doing their homework first and only fixate on it's negatives.

I have heard the opinions of natives who no longer care for the place, and this is not how they sound. And that same tired South Park video? Seriously? You sound like a run-of-the-mill BS-ing SF-hater to me.

[jman650]

Originally Posted by rah

What is it with lame ass SF haters and quoting South Park? South Park is a satirical cartoon. You know what i think is smug? Ignorant people such as yourself who treat a cartoon as some sort of definitive proof of their own misconceptions.

"well SOUTH PARK said it was true, so it obviously is" *makes smug, ultra-punchable face*

LOL seriously! Not that that wasn't a hilarious episode, but SOOOO many people in this forum have brought it up so many times its ridiculous. South Park mocks everyone, not just us. Its not like they made an entire series designed to mock us for years like Mike Judge did for the ignorant backward hicks that make up the population of Texas. King of the Hill, anyone? LOL!

How come we're still hearing about South Park as supposed proof positive of what SF's like but I haven't seen anyone giving Jersey (JERSEY OF ALL PLACES!) crap about this episode?

Its A Jersey Thing (Season 14, Episode 9) - Full Episode Player - South Park Studios

They ripped Jersey way worse than us, but I haven't seen anyone bringing this up. I think that's probably b/c more normal everyday people that comprehend rational thought rip Jersey on the regular and don't need to reach out to South Park as a crutch to make their case, while the SF-hating trolls are more of the type to simply repeat what they have already heard and are much more desperate to make their case against SF. These morons are pathetic.