03-06-2010, 07:03 PM
Location: Pasadena
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tstieber
Hm, the official data, and my experience, does not support that.
US NODC Coastal Water Temperature Guide shows that all but one SoCal reporting station averages water temps below 70 degrees all year, except for Newport Beach right at 70 for one month. I've read that the warmest water temp EVER recorded in SD was 76F, and I've only seen it up to 74F once for a few days, and sometimes in the low 70s, but once you leave SD and head into OC, it's usually below 70. I would, however, be interested in any statistics about water temps having ever broken 80F anywhere in California. That would be more than 10F above the average, and water temps don't vary that much.
Those are the average water temps per month. The ocean goes thru periods when warm or cold currents occur. For example, the Davidson current comes up from Mexico each summer and it is common to go weeks with ocean temps above 70F. And San Diego averages 70F+ from mid July to mid Sept:
Pacific Ocean Temperatures on California Coast
mid-and-upper 70s from Point Conception south to the Mexican border and out at least 40 miles. On July 29 the water temperature at San Clemente Pier, in Orange County, was 78 degrees -- or the same water temperature at Waimea Bay, Hawaii. The reason was not a result of El Nino or La Nina, but from localized weather patterns begun in early June". http://www.thinkandask.com/2006/072906-6calif.html
"July brought the highest ocean temperatures ever recorded, some North County lifeguards said Tuesday.
At 2:20 p.m. Friday, Del Mar lifeguards recorded a Hawaii-like ocean temperature of 81.1 degrees" .
Unusually warm ocean temperatures returning to normal
03-06-2010, 07:28 PM
Location: West Coast
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tstieber
Hm, the official data, and my experience, does not support that.
US NODC Coastal Water Temperature Guide shows that all but one SoCal reporting station averages water temps below 70 degrees all year, except for Newport Beach right at 70 for one month. I've read that the warmest water temp EVER recorded in SD was 76F, and I've only seen it up to 74F once for a few days, and sometimes in the low 70s, but once you leave SD and head into OC, it's usually below 70. I would, however, be interested in any statistics about water temps having ever broken 80F anywhere in California. That would be more than 10F above the average, and water temps don't vary that much.
Your link is an average temp of day and NIGHT temperature. The sun has a little bit of a warming effect, maybe a degree or two. So it is pretty normal to see many SoCal beaches get to the mid-70s every summer. Definitely a lot warmer than the warmest NorCal and central Coast beaches which hover around high 50's and very low 60s.
03-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Location: Pasadena
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vdy1985
Your link is an average temp of day and NIGHT temperature. The sun has a little bit of a warming effect, maybe a degree or two. So it is pretty normal to see many SoCal beaches get to the mid-70s every summer. Definitely a lot warmer than the warmest NorCal and central Coast beaches which hover around high 50's and very low 60s.
The best time to go in for a swim is sunset w/ the water at its warmest. We used to go to Will Rodgers state beach after my mom got off work. With the hibachi for bbq & no crowds. The most fun is to go in when it is dark [skinny-dipping
and feel the warmth of the ocean. But overall SoCal is cold for swimming most of the year.
03-07-2010, 02:38 AM
Location: San Leandro
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Wrong.
LoL quit being silly. The water in Northern california comes from Alaska not mexico. The stuff is freezing.
03-07-2010, 09:03 AM
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Wow, cool, thanks for that link. I can't believe I missed my one chance to get into the ocean without freezing my buns off! It'll happen again some day I'm sure. Ah, summer seems so far off today...
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californio sur
Those are the average water temps per month. The ocean goes thru periods when warm or cold currents occur. For example, the Davidson current comes up from Mexico each summer and it is common to go weeks with ocean temps above 70F. And San Diego averages 70F+ from mid July to mid Sept:
Pacific Ocean Temperatures on California Coast
mid-and-upper 70s from Point Conception south to the Mexican border and out at least 40 miles. On July 29 the water temperature at San Clemente Pier, in Orange County, was 78 degrees -- or the same water temperature at Waimea Bay, Hawaii. The reason was not a result of El Nino or La Nina, but from localized weather patterns begun in early June". http://www.thinkandask.com/2006/072906-6calif.html
"July brought the highest ocean temperatures ever recorded, some North County lifeguards said Tuesday.
At 2:20 p.m. Friday, Del Mar lifeguards recorded a Hawaii-like ocean temperature of 81.1 degrees" .
Unusually warm ocean temperatures returning to normal
03-07-2010, 09:14 AM
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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LoL quit being silly. The water in Northern california comes from Alaska not mexico. The stuff is freezing.
Not kidding. I swear! Hell, I know it's not the Gulf of Mexico, but my kids and I have been in the water quite a bit the past couple of years. Not up to our necks swimming for hours, but the frolicking chasing running around in the first couple of feet of water though. When it 100+ degrees in Southern Sonoma County, the 20 minute drive to Dillon Beach is totally worth the cool down! The chillier water makes it even better!
Heart's Desire beach is the ONLY place where i've seen kids in just bathing suits up to their bellies in the water. (on Tomales Bay) not full on Pac Ocean.
I was shocked. So then I got in, this was in July of last year. It was warmer than Venice Beach in December, that's for sure!
03-08-2010, 09:02 AM
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Bottom line on this for most people:
03-08-2010, 09:09 AM
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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Bottom line on this for most people:
Amen! If you want warm ocean water look into universities in the Caribbean or on the Gulf of Mexico.
03-08-2010, 10:23 AM
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Bottom line on this for most people...
Well shoot, as long as you are bottom lining it for us I guess that settles it.
03-08-2010, 01:22 PM
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bellalunatic
Not kidding. I swear! Hell, I know it's not the Gulf of Mexico, but my kids and I have been in the water quite a bit the past couple of years. Not up to our necks swimming for hours, but the frolicking chasing running around in the first couple of feet of water though. When it 100+ degrees in Southern Sonoma County, the 20 minute drive to Dillon Beach is totally worth the cool down! The chillier water makes it even better!
Heart's Desire beach is the ONLY place where i've seen kids in just bathing suits up to their bellies in the water. (on Tomales Bay) not full on Pac Ocean.
I was shocked. So then I got in, this was in July of last year. It was warmer than Venice Beach in December, that's for sure!
I agree, Hearts Desire beach IS quite warm.
I also agree with the frustration in this thread. I love the bay area, but the ocean temperatures just suck. I hate having to go to Marin county or Santa Cruz just to find decent beaches (As far as I know), and even then the waters are cold
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People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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