Rant: Tired of people asking if it's safe in Oakland (San Diego: zip code, price)

[jade408]

Originally Posted by ken22

Not necessarily. Plenty of poor Asians have migrated to SF over the past 30 years.

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The reasons for coming are different. It wasn't for jobs that were eliminated that's for sure.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.

[Andy Patrizio]

One way to measure an area is by its schools, as someone pointed out. Look at this map

California School Performance Maps

knowing certain areas, I find this map tends to jive with the overall quality of the area. The better the school, the better the neighborhood. So going off this map, avoid west Oakland, south of Emeryville, and stick to east Oakland.

[GatherYeAcorns]

Racist? LOL. I'm a third generation San Fran/ Bay Area resident (I know what "hella" means and the word "Frisco" doesn't offend me). Drop the denial and race card excuse crap. Oakland is not a safe area (neither is S.F. especially the Tenderloin and Bay View/HP). I've worked in Oakland for a total of 12 years. So I know what I'm talking about. I'm tired of the bs crap. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by GatherYeAcorns

Racist? LOL. I'm a third generation San Fran/ Bay Area resident (I know what "hella" means and the word "Frisco" doesn't offend me). Drop the denial and race card excuse crap. Oakland is not a safe area (neither is S.F. especially the Tenderloin and Bay View/HP). I've worked in Oakland for a total of 12 years. So I know what I'm talking about. I'm tired of the bs crap. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

And yet 400,000+ people call Oakland home

As to the question is Oakland safe...

I would never state yes or no.

What is safe for me might be someone else's worst nightmare.

I managed a home high in the Oakland hills a few years ago... beautiful home with great SF skyline view.

The family I was showing the home really liked it and wanted to come back after dark to check out the city lights view.

As they were leaving... a flock of wild turkeys came walking down the road... maybe 7 or 8.

The mother saw the turkeys and quickly told her kids to get in the car... from a rolled down window she informed me they would not be coming back because the neighborhood was not safe because of the wild turkeys having free range

[bmw335xi]

If you make $500k, crime statistics don't matter because you can always find a safe area in any city, whether it is Oakland, Detroit, New Orleans or even Mexico City.

If you make $50k, crime statistics matter somewhat because you may live in areas or near areas that some of the crime statistics come from.

If you make $15k, crime statistics are very important because you will live in an area where the crime statistics come from.

Oakland for example: Oakland has a much higher crime rate than the national average. If you make $500k, you can live in a very safe area and not worry about crime (at least when you are at home). If you make $50k, you need to do some crime research on the areas you are looking around. If you make $15k, you should be concerned about moving there.

This is just my two cents.

[CirclingLogan]

Originally Posted by GatherYeAcorns

Racist? LOL. I'm a third generation San Fran/ Bay Area resident (I know what "hella" means and the word "Frisco" doesn't offend me). Drop the denial and race card excuse crap. Oakland is not a safe area (neither is S.F. especially the Tenderloin and Bay View/HP). I've worked in Oakland for a total of 12 years. So I know what I'm talking about. I'm tired of the bs crap. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

My favorite. Pompous "natives". Isn't that another word for "untraveled"? Would you consider West Africa safe? Eastern Europe? I've lived in both and came out unscathed. Amazing, huh?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by GatherYeAcorns

Racist? LOL. I'm a third generation San Fran/ Bay Area resident (I know what "hella" means and the word "Frisco" doesn't offend me). Drop the denial and race card excuse crap. Oakland is not a safe area (neither is S.F. especially the Tenderloin and Bay View/HP). I've worked in Oakland for a total of 12 years. So I know what I'm talking about. I'm tired of the bs crap. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

Pleasanton awaits.

[cardinal2007]

I think anyone looking to move to an area, or work in said area would be right to ask about how safe it is. Safety is more than just personal safety, granted that should take priority, you shouldn't undervalue your health and safety, but property crime questions are important to people too, especially if they are going to contemplate taking a car to work, or parking on the street. Even safer areas have crime, my partner had his car window smashed because he left his iPhone in the car, across the street from Santana Row. But you clearly wouldn't want that happening every few months, the $300 and broken glass would get annoying fast.

And seriously don't accuse people of racism, just for asking such questions, it makes you sound like a troll, trying to stir up trouble.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by cardinal2007

I think anyone looking to move to an area, or work in said area would be right to ask about how safe it is. Safety is more than just personal safety, granted that should take priority, you shouldn't undervalue your health and safety, but property crime questions are important to people too, especially if they are going to contemplate taking a car to work, or parking on the street. Even safer areas have crime, my partner had his car window smashed because he left his iPhone in the car, across the street from Santana Row. But you clearly wouldn't want that happening every few months, the $300 and broken glass would get annoying fast.

And seriously don't accuse people of racism, just for asking such questions, it makes you sound like a troll, trying to stir up trouble.

The difference is, even though car breakins occasionally happen in a nice area like Santana Row, no one says Santana Row is terribly unsafe or that incident characterizes all of San Jose.

When it comes to Oakland some people almost accuse you of lying if you say you have never been a crime victim and refuse to concede crime levels vary significantly across Oakland.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by jade408

The difference is, even though car breakins occasionally happen in a nice area like Santana Row, no one says Santana Row is terribly unsafe or that incident characterizes all of San Jose.

When it comes to Oakland some people almost accuse you of lying if you say you have never been a crime victim and refuse to concede crime levels vary significantly across Oakland.


I am on my phone, please forgive the typos.

My experience exactly and I could not have said it better