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View Poll Results: Should the public have access to crime information at NFL venues?
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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I went to a riot once and a Raiders game broke out....
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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^ha, now that funny!
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Those are isolated incidents, probably the two most infamous incidents. Security is really tight around LA Live now. Even in the video you embedded, it was ONE CROSS street where the "riot" was happening. Not really a riot really, more like an "incident". Plus the Mayor and residents really condemned the actions of that one minor incident, security increased and LAPD now has a bigger presence there than ever before (I went to LA for the Thunder-Laker series with some friends). So they have taken steps to turn it into a nice classy area.

The problem with the Coliseum and Oakland riots in general is that they are actually "celebrated" as part of being RAIDERS NATION, so there is a cool factor for many fans and residences, which is why the rioting is more common and pervasive in Oakland compared to LA, or NY, or other big sports towns. Next to the coliseum, there is nothing. Just industrial companies, trucking companies, and graffiti.


It's really ridiculous and makes the whole Coliseum dangerous IMO.
the idea that sports riots are unique to or more prelevant in oakland is absurd


vancouver had 2 very destructive riots in a 7 year period

"RCMP were called in to subdue the crowd believed to number at least 50,000. More than 200 people were injured, the most serious being a teenager who was shot in the head by police with a rubber bullet and suffered permanent brain damage."

Read it on Global News: Global Regina | Hockey riots in Canada

also united states university sports riots are routine
here are just a FEW


University of Maryland – April 1-2, 2002

A night of bonfires, looting, drunken brawls, flying beer bottles and hundreds of troopers in riot gear caused roughly $50,000 in damages. The rioting was so bad, university officials later established a zero tolerance anti-rioting rule, meaning a student could be expelled if caught in acts of vandalism or violence after games.
Maryland, who has a history of rioting, had a similar riot a year earlier in a Final Four loss to Duke, when a bonfire set by fans caused $500,000 in damage. Rowdy fans smashed out storefronts, attacked police, and set fire to a mobile home.


Iowa State University – April 17-18, 2004

Police and about 2,000 rioters clashed until almost 5:30am. Lamp posts, street signs, parking meters and many storefront windows were damaged or destroyed. 16 officers and 22 civilians suffered injuries, some due to falling lamp posts. 37 arrests were made, including assault of an officer, criminal mischief, disorderly conduct and interference with official acts. The night ended with nearly $250,000 in damages to public and private property


Ohio State University – November 23, 2002
That night in Columbus was a war zone: people were flipping cars over and lighting them on fire, uprooting trees and ripping doors off of houses to fuel the fires, and tear gas was being dispersed everywhere while the crowd was being shot at with rubber bullets.


Michigan State University - March 27, 1999
cars were turned over and burned, 61 fires were set, trees were uprooted and traffic signs were destroyed. Approximately 130 people were convicted for their involvement in the riot, two being charged with arson. Actions from the chaotic night caused more than $500,000 in damages.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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the idea that sports riots are unique to or more prelevant in oakland is absurd

It is absurd.

But there is no denying that there is a "Raider's Nation" sub culture that tends to drift towards violence and rioting, and it has made going to Raider's games a hassle, if not dangerous as per the anecdotal stories you see posted here.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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It's kind of hard to believe someone and their "experiences" when they make up stories about there being "riots" at the Coliseum.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Arkansas
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Has anyone bothered to notice that the OP has not been back since the original post? While everyone is infighting, someone's laughing.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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ok.
of course we should have the information available but we will not be able to.
just like ski resorts won't release information on broken wrists and legs from skiing.
and cruise ships don't release information on assualts and robberies.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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Has anyone bothered to notice that the OP has not been back since the original post? While everyone is infighting, someone's laughing.
Well that's probably why this thread was started, to bash Oakland and stir the pot. A common theme on this forum. Just go through and look at how many past Oakland threads have been started by users that never post again.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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ok.
of course we should have the information available but we will not be able to.
just like ski resorts won't release information on broken wrists and legs from skiing.
and cruise ships don't release information on assualts and robberies.
To be honest, I don't think the info is even required. Most people know what they are dealing with when it comes to Raider's games. A lot of fans actually like "Raider's Nation"
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Well that's probably why this thread was started, to bash Oakland and stir the pot. A common theme on this forum. Just go through and look at how many past Oakland threads have been started by users that never post again.
Common theme: They're all "Fantastic!"
Oakland-bashing is raised to a veritable artform here at C-D
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