SF's Living Wage: Good Or Bad?

[Mark Fitsburgh]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Depends on one's definition of 'living wage'. Plenty of people get by with much less than that.

And they have 5 roommates.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Mark Fitsburgh

And they have 5 roommates.

Which can be quite fun in a place like SF.

[Mark Fitsburgh]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Which can be quite fun in a place like SF.

Not when you're over 25.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Mark Fitsburgh

Not when you're over 25.

Or you still like to have fun, though you're over 25. I happen to know a great many like this. Not everybody has to grow old, boring and angry.

[Mark Fitsburgh]

Having a bunch of roomates is your idea of fun? That gets old fast after a certain age, has nothing to do with being old or angry etc. Privacy can be a good thing. Especially when dating.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Motion

What have been the results of San Francisco's living wage? Has it helped or hurt the local economy?


San Francisco Minimum Wage Increase Makes It Highest In The Nation (VIDEO)

there is no such thing as a real living wage, i don't care how high it goes. Most minimum paying jobs are not dsigned to support a person or a family.They were meant to be starter jobs for kids, jobs for college kids, housewives that wanted a few extra bucks or as a second income on a part time basis. By raising the min wage, all that is accomplished is, higher salaries for others and the cost is passed onto the comsumer. What part of this can some not understand?

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by mayorhaggar

Nobody fusses about techies making huge incomes by producing shovelware and driving up rents for everyone else. Surely their high incomes contribute to the costs of your iphone? You don't care? Ok.

$10.55 an hour still isn't enough to live somewhere like SF or even Oakland, hell it's not enough to get by on in Texas or Florida for that matter.

min wages are not designed to live on. They are desigened as second jobs, part time jobs etc. I don't think anyone thinks $10.55 an hour is a livable wage, if that is the only form of income. Also, what makes you think living in Florida is cheap or even Texas for that matter. Florida is anything but an inexpensive place to live. They are no state income taxes, that is a savings, everything else is on par with most larger states. No, it isn't as expensive as Ca but it isn't a low cost of living state either.

[Martinzehr]

Enforcement of the living wage is the mechanism for political control. Hotel workers- you're good. Chinese restaurants- sorry, can't see you. Department stores- you're covered, massage parlors- that's funny. Organize the unorganized to win contracts with better pay. Living wage is a shill.

[alliance]

As a small business owner in the city, increasing minimum wage has a dramatic effect. As has been mentioned, when you increase the wages of the lowest workers (or hire new people with NO SKiLLS, hence need to be trained, which is expensive by itself) it forces me to bump everyone else up as well. In the end I am forced to cross train everyone and keep employee numbers as low as possible. If min wage was lower I'd hire a couple more people or increase hours of the existing staff. This crap forces lots of small businesses to be understaffed in order to keep in business. There are other negative consequences to this as well, but something tells me that using facts hardly matters to some on here, so I won't waste my time. Idiots who claim that this is all about "the 1% and how they're greedy, so it's only fair to take their money and spread it out" have no idea how this stuff really works.