Is Oakland a cheap hipster city ? (San Francisco, Davis: 2014, high income, organic)

[bmw335xi]

Hipsters are hippy wannabes... they wear clothes that look like garbage, but in reality it cost them around $100 for that outfit, they don't want to support greedy corporations, but will glady pay $15-$20 from a hipster owned restaurant...etc

[Ruth4Truth]

Patronizing locally-owned businesses keeps the profits in the local economy. That's a good thing. That's one thing that's so attractive about much of the Bay Area. Some of the communities enact policies that support locally-owned businesses over national chains.

[04kL4nD]

I like local restaurants, but that's because the food tastes better than most chain restaurants. I don't think that makes me a hipster though.

I think the most apt way to describe a hipster is that it's someone who's trying super hard not to look mainstream or ordinary, yet they fail at fooling anyone.

[Blackhawk4440]

O4KL4ND:

Don't forget how during the last NFL season, the Seattle 12th Man freaks actually bought a billboard next to Candlestick Park to taunt the 49ers fans; then embargoed ticket sales to the Bay Area for the NFL Championship. I won't even go into their deplorable antics here in the city after the Super Bowl win, but it shows the crass and unsportsmanlike behavior that even Raiders' fans---who have a reputation for being a little rowdy---would never tolerate.

And you can see that same spirit reflected in some comments on this thread too; they're evidently even trolling non-Seattle threads to pounce on anybody who might criticize their ' We're-Number-One-In-Everything' city! LOL

[Blackhawk4440]

I think hipsters are basically the hangers-on of the tech industry. When the tech industry comes into an area with new money, the hipsters are the people they hire at minimum wage to do menial jobs---but the hipsters think they should be millionaires like their bosses. Their envy drives them to act like cheap imitations of the people who are really successful in the tech industry; while at the same time they take a passive-aggressive, faux-progressive political and social stances just to get back at the guys above.

Whenever the hipsters take over a neighborhood, their natural allies, the street losers, follow. These are the ones who can't even rate a minimum-wage job but have the same sense of entitlement. That's why everywhere they go, they turn their neighborhoods into dumps.

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by Blackhawk4440

O4KL4ND:

Don't forget how during the last NFL season, the Seattle 12th Man freaks actually bought a billboard next to Candlestick Park to taunt the 49ers fans; then embargoed ticket sales to the Bay Area for the NFL Championship. I won't even go into their deplorable antics here in the city after the Super Bowl win, but it shows the crass and unsportsmanlike behavior that even Raiders' fans---who have a reputation for being a little rowdy---would never tolerate.

And you can see that same spirit reflected in some comments on this thread too; they're evidently even trolling non-Seattle threads to pounce on anybody who might criticize their ' We're-Number-One-In-Everything' city! LOL

Congrats on winning ONE championship. By all means, enjoy your recent, limited success. But if you keep bringing it up (in an SF forum, no less) and bragging about it, it makes you sound as bad as a bandwagon SF Giants fan.

[sonarrat]

Originally Posted by ketch89

that is the most ridiculous comment ever, a wigger is just about the polar opposite of a hipster, rofl.. Neither group really exists, though, so keep calling people you don't know whatever you like.

Fair enough. I have absolutely zero interest in either group.

[Blackhawk4440]

O4KL4ND:
Oh, I agree: living here in Seattle (for now) I can you that the bandwagon is even worse up here. I fell asleep once with the radio on, and when I woke up, they were actually doing an in-depth interview with the Seahawks' laundry staff. The local media is a like a Seahawk CNN: 24/7 coverage with an occasional break for actual news.

I guarantee though if the Seahawks start losing, you won't hear a peep of these guys about them.

[TheCityTheBridge]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Young person, 20's-30's.

You'll get other definitions based on whatever it is about young people that someone doesn't like (clothes, hair, music, hobbies, attitudes, etc.) but it still comes down to "young people".

You know you're getting old when you can label the younger generations

Spot on (particularly in reference to college-educated young people). It's pretty much an update to the age-old American "get off my lawn" pastime.

Originally Posted by jade408

No there are some hipster interests and hipster clothing styles. Not every youngster is a hipster. You'll wNt to add on things like appreciation for artisan cocktails, coffee with a pedigree, craft beers, indie guitar driven music and sometimes bicycling for transportation or bike touring (but not bike racing).

Artisan cocktails, or cheap beer, or fancy beer, or independent music, or using a bike, or an entire list of things that people may or may not like/do. It's a catchall for something that annoys you about young adults.

Originally Posted by alliance

Wow, all the people bitching about Oakland on this thread about hipsters don't even know what a hipster is.
Go look on the fancy interweb and wikipedia. Or just walk around NOPA and mission for a few minutes.

Sigh . . .

NOPA is a restaurant. Divisadero is a street with a lot of college-educated young people (and a lot of multi-generation SF families). The Mission is a neighborhood with a lot of . . . college-educated young people (and multi-generation SF families, but you were not talking about those).

Originally Posted by Ceece

YEAH. It's apparently morphed into "anyone different than me" who is on trend with whatever the trend is. My kids are "hipsters" but are the same people they have always been (and nothing alike either) but now they have a couple plaid shirts so....

The thing is, it's almost the new "yuppie". Some of these people have $$$ and that's what's driving the prices up in Oakland and everywhere else. It's not just the tech companies, although techies can be yuppies and hipsters too. It get's confusing when you need to identify someone to blame things on.

I forgot, plaid shirts are "hipster," but so are hoodies (as long as the person wearing it is young and white). Jeans are "hipster" if they are tight enough. T-shirts are definitely "hipster," as are messenger bags, laptop bags, and eyeglasses.

Get off my lawn!

[jade408]

Originally Posted by TheCityTheBridge

Artisan cocktails, or cheap beer, or fancy beer, or independent music, or using a bike, or an entire list of things that people may or may not like/do. It's a catchall for something that annoys you about young adults.

Not exactly. What makes it hipster is that hipsters think they discovered these things and are the only people doing them. I do half of these things on the list, yet I am self-aware enough to realize I am not the first, nor will I be the last person to appreciate a handcrafted cocktail or the benefits of using your bike to get around town. People have been doing that stuff for 200 years or more.

Sigh . . .

NOPA is a restaurant.

You are out of the loop, it is a new neighborhood called North of Panhandle. North Panhandle Neighborhood Association
They had to break off from the Western Addition to justify the price increases.

I forgot, plaid shirts are "hipster," but so are hoodies (as long as the person wearing it is young and white). Jeans are "hipster" if they are tight enough. T-shirts are definitely "hipster," as are messenger bags, laptop bags, and eyeglasses.

Get off my lawn!

My dad has summed up hipsters really well. Hippies without a cause.