Conservative Relocating (Los Angeles, San Francisco, Fresno: middle-class, unemployment rate, universities)

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by user_id

Because people tend to cluster around like minded people. Certain parts of the bay area have been liberal for a long time though.

The Bay Area is over 7 million people [that's a lot of clustering ]. I think you have to face the truth that the Bay Area did not leave the Republican party but rather the Republican party left the Bay Area [or all of California for that matter]. Ronald Reagan would not be welcomed in the Republican party today and that is sad.

[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by californio sur

How do you explain that Republicans do so poorly in the Bay Area?

Maybe because SF liberals prefer to elect stupid politicians? Do you ever follow the SF Board of Supervisors? Some of the biggest elected fools in the state.

And FYI, Bill Maher said last year "it's always that limousine liberal crowd that just has their finger on the politically correct button.....That's what bugs me the most about liberals is that they just...they object before they even know what they're objecting to."

Maher also has said "And I would say especially on campuses in the last 10 or 15 years, the repression of speech has come more from the left."

So Maher also thinks liberals are too politically correct and try to hard to suppress (and put down) the opinions of those they don't agree with.

I do not think those behaviors show intelligence, instead they show a prejudice against a group of people which is just as bad for our country as racism & bigotry, sexism, etc. We cannot attack and putdown those we do not agree with or who are different than us for ANY reason.

Will we wake up one day to discover new Blacklists created by liberals that are used just as earlier lists were used by McCarthyites in the 1950s?

No wonder so many people are moving toward independent status somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, both sides are too extreme. If you hate one extreme political opinion you should also hate the other, neither does our country any good.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

Maybe because SF liberals prefer to elect stupid politicians? Do you ever follow the SF Board of Supervisors? Some of the biggest elected fools in the state.

And FYI, Bill Maher said last year "it's always that limousine liberal crowd that just has their finger on the politically correct button.....That's what bugs me the most about liberals is that they just...they object before they even know what they're objecting to."

Maher also has said "And I would say especially on campuses in the last 10 or 15 years, the repression of speech has come more from the left."

So Maher also thinks liberals are too politically correct and try to hard to suppress (and put down) the opinions of those they don't agree with.

I do not think those behaviors show intelligence, instead they show a prejudice against a group of people which is just as bad for our country as racism & bigotry, sexism, etc. We cannot attack and putdown those we do not agree with or who are different than us for ANY reason.

Will we wake up one day to discover new Blacklists created by liberals that are used just as earlier lists were used by McCarthyites in the 1950s?

No wonder so many people are moving toward independent status somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, both sides are too extreme. If you hate one extreme political opinion you should also hate the other, neither does our country any good.

So the voters are stupid? Since the Bay Area is overwhelmingly Democratic that would mean they are overwhelmingly stupid, in your opinion. Since Fresno voted for Obama, I suppose it is now also a stupid city?

[user_id]

Originally Posted by californio sur

The Bay Area is over 7 million people [that's a lot of clustering ]. I think you have to face the truth that the Bay Area did not leave the Republican party but rather the Republican party left the Bay Area [or all of California for that matter].

Right that is a lot of clustering, the larger a cluster gets the more people it will attract and the more it will repel those that don't fit in. The majority of the people in the bay area are transplants and the bay area has been attracting liberals for decades. The clustering of liberals in the bay area has everything to do with its history and nothing to do with "the republican party leaving the bay area".

[andyadhi01]

Originally Posted by user_id

Right that is a lot of clustering, the larger a cluster gets the more people it will attract and the more it will repel those that don't fit in. The majority of the people in the bay area are transplants and the bay area has been attracting liberals for decades. The clustering of liberals in the bay area has everything to do with its history and nothing to do with "the republican party leaving the bay area".

Thats the best thing about bay area. It repels conservatives like no other place! Maybe they can start a Pride parade and put some housing projects in Danville and Walnut Creek and see the lingering conservative enclaves vanish!

[user_id]

Originally Posted by andyadhi01

Thats the best thing about bay area. It repels conservatives like no other place! Maybe they can start a Pride parade and put some housing projects in Danville and Walnut Creek and see the lingering conservative enclaves vanish!

I find it funny to what degree people associate liberal with gay-rights, etc while ignoring everything else. Anyhow, the people in Danville and Walnut Creek are unlikely to care about a "pride parade".

If you push out the conservatives in the bay area you will also push out most the money.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by user_id

Right that is a lot of clustering, the larger a cluster gets the more people it will attract and the more it will repel those that don't fit in. The majority of the people in the bay area are transplants and the bay area has been attracting liberals for decades. The clustering of liberals in the bay area has everything to do with its history and nothing to do with "the republican party leaving the bay area".

Republicans try their darnest to convince themselves that they have any kind of influence in California. To suggest that people in the Bay Area are all transplants is impossible to prove and actually the opposite may be correct. Native Californian's used to vote Republican but now don't. Historically you might want to study Nixon's "Southern strategy" that resulted in all Dixiecrats [former Democrats] leaving their life long party to join the Republican party. They left the Democratic party because the Republicans encouraged racism in order to get votes [real nice people, huh?]. Former Dixiecrats hated Republicans because they hated President Lincoln but they quickly left the Democratic party when it embraced integration. This process of the South becoming Republican took a while.

Here's an article on how radical the Republicans have become and how even Ronald Reagan would not be accepted by Republicans today:
Today's GOP could snub even Reagan - Page 2 - Los Angeles Times

[andyadhi01]

Originally Posted by user_id

If you push out the conservatives in the bay area you will also push out most the money.

I don't think so! Lot of the wealthy people here are liberals. Also bay area has large wealthy Asian/Indian population and vast majority of them vote democrat. This is not orange county! Sorry..

[mayorhaggar]

Originally Posted by user_id

If you push out the conservatives in the bay area you will also push out most the money.

They already left because they hated everyone, and San Francisco is still one of the wealthiest cities in the US and the Bay Area one of the wealthiest areas.

Seriously, I think people in SF wouldn't hate the GOP so much if Republicans weren't always going around spewing their hatred of anyone who isn't a rich straight white male and generalizing about how everyone in the Bay Area is some kind of drag queen communist dominatrix. Most people in the Bay Area are just totally normal people trying to get by, and we get tired of this kind of BS.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by californio sur

To suggest that people in the Bay Area are all transplants is impossible to prove and actually the opposite may be correct.

Its not impossible at all, just look at the migration statistics and population growth. In the 50's the bay area was pretty much 50/50 and it has slowly become more liberal over the last 60 years. The population tripled in that time, which is much to quick for it to be from births.

I'm not interested in your republican vs democrat stuff. I'm only talking about how the bay area has become a cluster of "liberals".