Slavery viewpoints in the south

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by divagotstyle07

Yes, and stating a historical fact is important, I guess.

But what I don't get is the Daughters of the Confederacy posting up shop?? Like...the civil war is over, go home. There is nothing that they are selling that I wanna buy. Am I mistaken somehow??

Diva - You are not mistaken because you are exercising your rights to what it is you feel comfortable with and you you think is right. For that, I applaud you. Keep in mind, much of what the Daughters of the Confederacy tries to do is to make us aware of what we white folks did so terribly wrong back than, and in doing so, hope to influence us not to do that again. Much can be garnered from history. Much can be learned.

[gentlearts]

Originally Posted by pink caddy

GA
He was making a correlation between the environment and hard work to slavery.

Oh, thanks, Pink, I never would have understood that.

[gentlearts]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

The development of the South is about slavery though. You think it's a coincidence that the places where slaves were concentrated in the South were the most developed early on and the Upcountry/Appalachia remained a backwater for so long?

You can't be this obtuse, even as a transplant.

I never said it wasn’t a part of the development of the south. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said that southerners have just as much right to their history as northerners do, and everything is not always about slavery. Nobody living today had slaves.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by eliza61nyc

Ok card carrying Black middle aged women here who loves Savannah and has it on her top 4 spots to possible retire.

So Op here are my thoughts.

I love history, and if you are going to love history and be proud of your country you must accept it warts and all. America was built on slavery and a lot of other really nasty mindsets. No one can change that. I'm from NYC and currently live in Philly. I've had to deal with racist pricks in both cities. stupidity is very mobile nowadays. the south has the same attitude about slavery as I would suspect the North, east, and west. It was horrible, just like the holocaust, the Khmer rouge, how we treated native americans and South African apartheid. Humans can be monstrously evil.

The plantation in Charleston may have very good reason to be proud. first I find us Americans (and I've lived in Portugal) tear down our history really, really quick. I live in Philly, birthplace of America, before we wised up you should have seen how many historical houses were bulldozed for the ugliest buildings known to God. so first they may have been proud that they had an entire plantation intact. that in itself is impressive.
Next slaves were considered property and property equaled wealth. Even by antebellum standards 800 slaves would have been impressive.

Just because an organization is old does not mean it's useless or subscribes to the same ideals. Have you heard of HBCU's?? historically black colleges and universities. many folks today wonder if they are relevant? they came out of the fact that blacks could not go to white colleges so we formed our own. now of course that's no longer an issue but HBCU's still contribute greatly.

I suspect the the DotC sell historical artifacts and other stuff. If you are a civil war buff and believe me there are a gazillion then they may interest you.

I'm sure Savannah and Charleston have their fare share of morons just like Philly does and I'm willing to bet that just like Philly not all of them are white.

So my suggestion is to do what I did, take a tour, accept the good and the bad of any city and it's history. if you are looking for a place to relocate then get to know the residents that are there now and worry about what happened in 1836 when you visit the AA museum in DC

Thank you for the blessedly unvarnished truth, eliza.

[pink caddy]

Originally Posted by gentlearts

Oh, thanks, Pink, I never would have understood that.

Sorry. I didn't understand what you were trying to say. Still don't.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by gentlearts

I never said it wasn’t a part of the development of the south. Quit putting words in my mouth. I said that southerners have just as much right to their history as northerners do, and everything is not always about slavery. Nobody living today had slaves.

I never put words in your mouth; I corrected you and there's a difference. The Southerners that have just as much right to their history includes Black Southerners that literally built the South. We're not talking about anybody living today; you talked about the development of the South and that revolves around slavery. Everything isn't about slavery, but what you're talking about is very much about slavery.

Did you and Kanye West attend the same schools?