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Old 06-19-2023, 12:35 PM
 
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I love how waterproof the iphone is. Can't imagine it would be anywhere near as waterproof with a tool-free swappable battery. I don't mind paying ~$50 every 2-3 years to have the battery professionally changed on my $1,200 iphone instead of having a tool-free battery that I can change myself for likely similar cost.
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Old 06-19-2023, 02:28 PM
 
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I love how waterproof the iphone is. Can't imagine it would be anywhere near as waterproof with a tool-free swappable battery. I don't mind paying ~$50 every 2-3 years to have the battery professionally changed on my $1,200 iphone instead of having a tool-free battery that I can change myself for likely similar cost.
I take my dive computers to 130' on a regular basis, which is nearly 10x deeper than the iphone is rated, and have over 1500 dives without any leaks. The user-replaceable battery compartments are typically opened with a coin. It's a threaded cap that screws down onto an o-ring. Not rocket science. Here's a short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYM1MP4WcVw

One difference though is that the battery in a dive computer can be a lot smaller - typically a button lithium like CR2450 or a AA - since you probably only run it 6 hours on even the busiest dive day.

For me, it's not the cost of having Apple replace the battery - it's the time and inconvenience.
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Old 06-19-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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I love how waterproof the iphone is. Can't imagine it would be anywhere near as waterproof with a tool-free swappable battery. I don't mind paying ~$50 every 2-3 years to have the battery professionally changed on my $1,200 iphone instead of having a tool-free battery that I can change myself for likely similar cost.
My Samsung Galaxy S5 was waterproof and had a removable battery. Apple is just incapable of building a quality product.

The additional battery I had cost me about $30.
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Old 06-19-2023, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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I'm still waiting for someone to share how they would use a replaceable or swappable battery.

I can't specifically recall my last phone with a removable battery (blackberry storm?), but I've never had the need to carry multiple batteries (nor replace a phone battery before the device was obsolete). I used to travel with a phone case with extra battery built in, but batteries are so good now that I dont find it necessary. I carry two iphones (work and personal). My work phone is an iphone 12 pro. I'm on it constantly (hours and hours per day - its my primary contact number). 85% battery health.
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Old 06-19-2023, 11:39 PM
 
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Obviously, this law only affects the EU, but OEMs wouldn’t likely design phones specifically for the EU.
Why not?

Cars are made to the standards of foreign countries, different from the US standards.
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Old 06-20-2023, 01:17 AM
 
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European Parliament passed a change to a law that will force replaceable batteries on all gadgets, including smartphones.
By law, phones in the EU by 2027 will need to have batteries you can replace with no tools, which means no adhesives.
This could fundamentally change how smartphones are designed.

Obviously, this law only affects the EU, but OEMs wouldn’t likely design phones specifically for the EU. Just like with an EU law forcing Apple to bring USB-C to iPhones (which will likely happen this year), this EU-specific law will have ripples across the world.

I think it's s great news. Phones and other gadgets cost way too much but any unauthorized repairs are prohibited by their makers.

BTW: there is already a "Right to repair" class-action against Apple...

https://www.androidauthority.com/rep...-2023-3335711/

is if you can remove your battery the gov't and leos cannot monitor you and track you when the battery is out. As far as I know that is. But now someone will say they still can. Answer:faraday bag.
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Old 06-20-2023, 05:23 AM
 
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It's always good if the customer has the option of replacing a battery. As it is, smartphones aren't designed to last years and years, anyway. When batteries start going bad, customers get another phone. Very wasteful. Now they'll have the option of getting a new battery and keeping the phone. Making a battery non-replaceable is a sales gimmick, to pump up sales of the devices. The fact that the companies do it that way to begin with tells us that it's beneficial to the manufacturer, not the customer.
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Old 06-21-2023, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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My Samsung Galaxy S5 was waterproof and had a removable battery. Apple is just incapable of building a quality product.

The additional battery I had cost me about $30.
Nowadays even computers are being designed so that components are soldered to the motherboard, and some laptops one has to take to a technician to replace the battery. But in the case of the iPhone, Apple has to pay for the cost of replacing the battery as long as the damage was not intensional.

Phone and laptop batteries can last quite a lot of years these days. I still have a very old iPod (generation II, I believe) and the battery is still working fine. But I still have to charge it once per week if I the iPod is not being used (self discharging in this case). Just look at most tablets (iPad and everything else) and try to figure how to replace the battery. Well, you can do it, but the simplest way is to let the right person do it for you while you can continue working an earning a paycheck

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Old 06-23-2023, 02:32 PM
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USB-C? Isn't that going to require taking the phone apart and installing a USB-C port? Not in my skill set. As for the battery, my year-old iPhone runs out of power and requires recharging for at least several hours every night. I'd welcome a replaceable battery (former Blackberry user speaking).
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Old 06-23-2023, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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USB-C? Isn't that going to require taking the phone apart and installing a USB-C port? Not in my skill set. As for the battery, my year-old iPhone runs out of power and requires recharging for at least several hours every night. I'd welcome a replaceable battery (former Blackberry user speaking).
It's about replacing battery not USB-C port.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/21/2...ries-phones-eu

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