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Old 06-16-2023, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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European Parliament passed a change to a law that will force replaceable batteries on all gadgets, including smartphones.
By law, phones in the EU by 2027 will need to have batteries you can replace with no tools, which means no adhesives.
This could fundamentally change how smartphones are designed.

Obviously, this law only affects the EU, but OEMs wouldn’t likely design phones specifically for the EU. Just like with an EU law forcing Apple to bring USB-C to iPhones (which will likely happen this year), this EU-specific law will have ripples across the world.

I think it's s great news. Phones and other gadgets cost way too much but any unauthorized repairs are prohibited by their makers.

BTW: there is already a "Right to repair" class-action against Apple...

https://www.androidauthority.com/rep...-2023-3335711/
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:45 PM
 
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I welcome a USB port on iPhones as there's minimal drawbacks.

Replaceable batteries are not something I am looking forward to. At least not the way it is described by the law.
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Old 06-17-2023, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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What are the drawbacks?
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Old 06-17-2023, 05:45 AM
 
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What are the drawbacks?
Off the top of my head, not many, but one possible drawback is that manufacturers can offload the cost of a battery failure onto the customer more easily while maintaining a phone's warranty, by adding an exclusion clause. (This would obviously not go over so well if the battery was nearly impossible to replace.) Once this happens, then there would be less of an incentive for manufacturers to make durable batteries since the customer would be paying for the new batteries. The result might be that better battery tech would be available, but not implemented.
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Old 06-18-2023, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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What are the drawbacks?
MUCH larger form factor (bigger, heavier). Less (or no) waterproofing. Dumb all around. Batteries are already replaceable.

USB-C on the other hand, I support.
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Off the top of my head, not many, but one possible drawback is that manufacturers can offload the cost of a battery failure onto the customer more easily while maintaining a phone's warranty, by adding an exclusion clause. (This would obviously not go over so well if the battery was nearly impossible to replace.) Once this happens, then there would be less of an incentive for manufacturers to make durable batteries since the customer would be paying for the new batteries. The result might be that better battery tech would be available, but not implemented.
Agree.
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Old 06-19-2023, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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MUCH larger form factor (bigger, heavier). Less (or no) waterproofing. Dumb all around. Batteries are already replaceable.

USB-C on the other hand, I support.
Agreed on both counts.
Phones got smaller and more structurally secured when it became harder to swap batteries. And, batteries last for a day or more, with durability over several years.
Plus, fast charging means I don't carry a spare battery to pop in like I did several years ago.

Fixing something that ain't broke.
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Old 06-19-2023, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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I will wait and see how that develops...
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Old 06-19-2023, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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It seems to have positive vibes on Twitter

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/co...or_smartphone/
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Old 06-19-2023, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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I’m curious… how would you, personally, use this “feature”?
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